Election Thread 2008 MAKE SURE YOU VOTE

[SpoDaddy]

I missed the Republican debates on Fox News, just caught the end where they stated that "Fred Thompson clearly won the debate," while the viewer poll at the bottom of the screen showed that 30+% thought Ron Paul won, almost double the percentage of any other candidate.

Fred Thompson got in one dragon punch on Huckabee; other than that he didn't say anything of note. Ron Paul certainly didn't win either, as he just continued to parrot the whole isolationism thing. Huckabee spent most of the debate trying to pander to the crowd, McCain made a lot of good points but unfortunately seemed really old and maybe a little senile at times.

I think Rudy won pretty decisively; he shot down the whole "he's not a real conservative" knock by arguing that traditional conservatism is about strong economic and defense policies rather than social issues. He further argued that the Republican party is doomed if it continues to hitch it's wagons to social positions on abortion and gay rights. He came out of the debate as the most electable candidate on the dais.

[Frogacuda]

traditional conservatism

is dead.

It's like how a Republican freed the slaves and now black people can't stand them.

[Fe 26]

Yes, America has lost hope, and they think the best solution to their problems is for the government to give up and mail them back a refund. That's "winning" the debate with people, it's true, and this is why Ron Paul is doing so well with people, but it's really sad.

Government can make this a better country. It has before, it will again, but it's hard to convince people of that, and so the surrender vote of Dr. Paul looks appealing.

can you blame people for feeling that way?

[Fe 26]

is dead..

then what good are they?

[Frogacuda]

can you blame people for feeling that way?

Yes, I can. In the same way I blame anyone who blames society for their troubles and thus never takes responsibility to achieve more.

You'll be ok. Or maybe not.

[Fe 26]

Yes, I can. In the same way I blame anyone who blames society for their troubles and thus never takes responsibility to achieve more.

You'll be ok. Or maybe not.

I don't. I don't trust them. And I see no reason to trust them after the past 50 years.

[Frogacuda]

It's the last 8 years that bother me in particular. We were on the right track with Clinton for a while.

[SpoDaddy]

It's like how a Republican freed the slaves and now black people can't stand them.

The stereotype is that black people hate Republicans. This is because Democrats have been pandering to minorities with empty campaign promises for 45 years. Believe it or not a lot of people see through that bullshit.

[Frogacuda]

It's not so much a stereotype as a statistical fact. And it's not based on empty promises, it's based on a priority toward social programs that benefit the working class and struggling members of society.

And also republicans are generally seen as the party of racist crackers, which is probably not entirely unfounded.

Also, population density is the strongest indicator of a region's political affiliation, and guess where black people live? It helps to not have to see your neighbor, or any of societies problems on a daily basis if you want to vote republican.

[Fe 26]

Also, population density is the strongest indicator of a region's political affiliation, and guess where black people live? It helps to not have to see your neighbor, or any of societies problems on a daily basis if you want to vote republican.

the south

try again

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