Working Delays?

[NeoZeedeater]

What I hate about Working Designs is not so much their delays but that they feel the need to "improve" games. Who are they to fuck with the artist's intention?

[Punky Skunk]

I don't mind if they do little tweaking, but if it changes the way the game is played significantly, they should keep their hands off (like apparently Silhouette Mirage had some major changes). Delays never bother me.

[Shin Johnpv]

well i dont mind the changes they make so you can have more than 3 saves to a mem card thats cool

but i dont liek their translations 90% of the time

im playing through Magic Knight Rayearth on saturn right now and wishing some one else had done the translating

honestly the majority of what they do is simply translating

i mean when it comes to Nintendo delaying the next sega ok fine theyre making it better when it comes to WD needing more time to translate the text im just kinda well this O_o

its like stay past 6 a few nights and get it out on time

i also think they need to get priorities straight

dont get me wrong i love the Special Edition stuff that goes into some of their releases BUT whats more important the game or a fucking standee

now with the Arc the Lad hint guides i hear theres to be alot of art in them art book type stuff which is way cool but if thats whats delaying theyre release then at some point you have to say fuck it and put the damn things out

i think WD loses sight of what the priority is in their releases

[Punky Skunk]

Originally posted by Johnpv
but i dont liek their translations 90% of the time

What could you possibly have against them?

[Tsubaki]

WD is the epitome of a "for the fans" publisher, and they get hated on in every topic related to WD or their published games. Lame.

They deserve it. "for the fans" my butt. Check out Google Groups/Deja News sometime and look for some Usenet threads where Vic Ireland, the pres, posts. The threads on rec.games.video.sega regarding Rayearth are particularly amusing. If anything, his arrogance and trash-talking is anything but "for the fans".

Speaking of arrogance:

What I hate about Working Designs is not so much their delays but that they feel the need to "improve" games. Who are they to fuck with the artist's intention?

And lastly, speaking of screwing with artist's intention, one comment I haven't heard much of in this thread is how awful WD's localizations are. Yes they're in readable English, but ohhhh the liberties they take on the dialog.

I don't know why anyone would -want- WD to have the rights to a game. They take years to "translate" a game. When they do, they hire Vic's wife's friends to do the awful voice acting. They'll invent their own jokes and stick 'em in the dialog. They'll screw with the gameplay because they think they're better than the Japanese makers. And finally, the president is an a complete a-hole.
What's there to like?

[NeoZeedeater]

The problem with Working Designs' delays is sometimes the system isn't alive for that long!

If WD had been the one's localizing Grandia 2, there's no way the game would have been out before the DC's death. Ubi released it quickly as is proper.

[Punky Skunk]

Originally posted by Tsubaki


They deserve it. "for the fans" my butt. Check out Google Groups/Deja News sometime and look for some Usenet threads where Vic Ireland, the pres, posts.

The product is the only thing that matters. And before its mentioned again, I don't care about delays (I have lots to play).

I don't know why anyone would -want- WD to have the rights to a game.

So it might get released in the U.S. and get a nice presentation?

When they do, they hire Vic's wife's friends to do the awful voice acting. They'll invent their own jokes and stick 'em in the dialog.

Jokes? Oh, the horror. But I'll agree the voice acting is really hit and miss. Some is great, some cringe-worthy, but that seems to be the nature of most videogame voice acting, which I hate in general.

They'll screw with the gameplay because they think they're better than the Japanese makers.

I hardly think that's the reasoning behind it. They want to make the games better, that doesn't mean they think they're better. If they want to improve framerate or whatever, and with all of the bitching about framerates on this board, who's to argue with that?

And finally, the president is an a complete a-hole.
What's there to like?

Um, what? What has he done again? He helps brings over great games no one would touch and ever since the Sega CD, has given the package extreme care (which is much appreciated by me). He even frequently posts on WD's forum. So how is he being an "a-hole" in any way that matters to the fans?

[Shikyoh]

Sorry I didn't mean to start a fight but I would have to agree with John. I mean fuck it can't take them that much fucking time to translate a game and add a few things. You could make the game in the time it takes them. I do like their finished products though.

[Korly]

Here's what WD should do.

Stop posting release dates until like, a month before they are COMPLETELY CERTAIN that the shit is gonna come out. Then, we can't say it got delayed, 'cause they never made up some unrealistic release date to begin with.

[Shin Johnpv]

Originally posted by Rob
What could you possibly have against them?

maybe the fact that they throw in things like jokes about bill clinton, him getting head, and other such things in their dialoug that DONT BELONG THERE

im sorry i prefer a direct translation to WD's lets add some current political humor well its current when they start but by the time it ships well.......

im serious though im playing through Magic KNight Rayearth and honestly i think id rather play the game in japanese and i dont speak a word of japanese

the translation is just horrible who ever wrote the dialoug has no fucking clue how normally people talk or how to write dialoug


their translations are PATHETIC plain and simple
though Arc the Lad seems to be better so far

but as far as their past translations i think a retarded monkey with dsylexia and terrets (spelling) could do a better job


and ive said it before all their doing is translating the game why does it take them longer to translate a game then it did the original team to MAKE the game

i mean come one what do they do sit around playing pocket pool all day long
stay past 6 a few nights and get the translation done


I mean look at the Arc the Lad hint books game came out what in March, the guide is supposed to come out next month, 4 yes 4 freaking months after the game hit i mean COME ON seriously thats just sad and pathetic