Tom Cruise on Scientology

[Fe 26]

Dude, people back then we're very very easily influenced. Trust me I have studied history forever. So by your logic, stay with me cheeks, Zeus and company existed and then decided one day, aw fuck it, I'm leaving? Seriously man, there would have to have been some kind of PROOF in the 2000+ years these events have been taking place. Where is the spear? the cross he was hung on? If he was THAT important somebody would have saved that shit and had his exact mailing address.


Fact of the matter is we have more information on Roman slaves than we do of any religion.

people now are very easily influenced. Our very economy pevits on that fact.

I don't think belief in a God is that obvious in the absence of a science. And I don't think people were stupid enough to accept it without questioning it. Someone initially had to come up with the concept, and I'd like to know why, and apparently not enough people called bullshit on it, and I want to know why they didn't do that.

and your argument about physical remains is dubious. Why do we not have any of the robotic statues in rome that were used to trick the common folk? Why do we not have any physical remains or property of some of the real people in the Bible, or heck, why not anything past down from the people who started Buddhism? Where's all that crap at?

[Othello Harrington]

There are indeed proof positive of many civilizations that outdate the Jewish, etc. Hell look at egypt, status and memoirs of RA decorate the land. Hindu and Jesus are two different animals, we don't even know if the Buddah was one person or a collective.

Here's a fact, all the statues of RA look the same all date at least 3000 years BC, most paintings of jesus vary along with the painter. So does how do you interpret that?

[Othello Harrington]

people now are very easily influenced. Our very economy pevits on that fact.

I don't think belief in a God is that obvious in the absence of a science. And I don't think people were stupid enough to accept it without questioning it. Someone initially had to come up with the concept, and I'd like to know why, and apparently not enough people called bullshit on it, and I want to know why they didn't do that.

and your argument about physical remains is dubious. Why do we not have any of the robotic statues in rome that were used to trick the common folk? Why do we not have any physical remains or property of some of the real people in the Bible, or heck, why not anything past down from the people who started Buddhism? Where's all that crap at?

Do you really want to know why the concept was put in place?

To control the feeble minded population, but it fucking backfired on Rome

[bbobb]

God is the catch all to explain anything that one can't explain. Ancient man just put down as god's work anything they can't explain.

As for why that idea came into being, that's easy to explain as well. For 1 it was used to organize societies with some form of law and government and 2, it has always been man trying to justify his own being, and tell himself that death isn't final as well.

[Othello Harrington]

The concept of religion was invented when the threat of war was not enough to control population. So really smart guy said "HAY GUYS, I got it, let's invent a divine power, then make people pay us money to go to a type of picnic hall and pray to it!!"

He's probably still laughing.

[Nash]

It seems that the possibility that ancient people actually experienced something to cause them to believe in such things is just ignored.

It's ignored because "ancient people" weren't in much of a position to understand the world around them. When it rained, they probably thought it was one of their deities crying or something. It's stuff like that that I think keeps certain countries from moving past irrational customs. For example, people in Vietnam still go to fortune-tellers to see which day and year is right for a woman to be married, or for a man to build/remodel his home, otherwise the supernatural world will cast bad luck on them for the rest of their lives. This all probably came about because a few couples had bad marriages, and rather than understanding that some people just aren't compatible, they rationalize it with, "The gods must have been angry at that couple. They must have married in a year and on a date the gods didn't like."

[rezo]

I don't think belief in a God is that obvious in the absence of a science. And I don't think people were stupid enough to accept it without questioning it.

For similar reasons why the beliefs persist today? We have religions like Scientology start up, cargo cults, superstitions develop endlessly and are even found forming in MMRPGs, it's just an odd function of society. In the spirit of looking backwards, some people look at this and don't accept it, and they did that in the past too. Here's something from just over 1500 years ago:

"All formal dogmatic religions are fallacious and must never be accepted by self-respecting persons as final."

"Fables should be taught as fables, myths as myths, and miracles as poetic fancies. To teach superstitions as truths is a most terrible thing. The child mind accepts and believes them, and only through great pain and perhaps tragedy can he be in after years relieved of them. In fact, men will fight for a superstition quite as quickly as for a living truth --- often more so, since a superstition is so intangible you cannot get at it to refute it, but truth is a point of view, and so is changeable."

Probably 6000 years ago when someone said "thunder comes when god is angry!" there were people who thought "what the fuck?" But their views aren't the ones that ended up in the books.

[Shin Johnpv]

The Anonymous Group has decided to attack Scientology.



They've already leaked a bunch of Scientology's secret internal documents, with in moments of that video going up the Scientology main site was also brought down, though I think it's back up now.

[YellerDog]

Nice to see 4chan is keeping busy.

[Fe 26]

Here's a fact, all the statues of RA look the same all date at least 3000 years BC, most paintings of jesus vary along with the painter. So does how do you interpret that?

the egyptians were obsessed with people remembering their dead kings, and jesus didn't really give a shit about it so long as his message lived?

I don't know, you tell me?