TNL's Favorite Publishers

[Opaque]

No, like I said

MarkRyan is the main walkthrough and cheat editor for IGN. I think I know who I'll listen to when it comes to the inside scene of video games.

The only person who could convince me you're right is Master.

they know that the damn things won't sell enough

The OG Xbox sold at a loss, they didn't lose money because "the damn things won't sell enough" they lost money because the units did sell, but for less then they were made for.

You really have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

[Granderoho]

The OG Xbox sold at a loss, they didn't lose money because "the damn things won't sell enough" they lost money because the units did sell, but for less then they were made for.

You really have no idea what the fuck you are talking about.

so what you fucking point, you haven't proved me wrong with anything you just said, I think the fact of the matter is that you have your head so far up your ass that you forgot to stop and smell the fucking roses. Look they would love for the thing to hit big, but they knew when they went into it that it had a good chance at not hitting its stride.

Microsoft had money to burn and Bill Gates was bored, so he made a gaming device that him and his budies could play over the internet with ease. Also I am really offended that you declined my friend request.

[bVork]

Microsoft had money to burn and Bill Gates was bored, so he made a gaming device that him and his bodies could play over the internet with easily.

Do you even listen to yourself?

[Opaque]

so what you fucking point, you haven't proved me wrong with anything you just said

Yes, I did.

Look they would love for the thing to hit big, but they knew when they went into it that it had a good chance at not hitting its stride.

It is a big hit, they've sold 18 million Xbox 360 and 24 million OG Xboxs; Sega never sold more than 13 million of any of it's consoles. Also, for the record, when you put Sony into the equation you were really being a fucking moron since the PS2 sold 120 million and the PSX sold 100 million units; all at a gain.

Microsoft had money to burn and Bill Gates was bored, so he made a gaming device that him and his bodies could play over the internet with easily.

I just don't even know how to respond to this.

Also I am really affended that you declined my friend request.

Why the living fuck would I want to be your friend on Live?

[kingoffighters]

Xbox everything lost them billions last generation. Their only profitable quarter was the quarter Halo 2 launched. This generation is probably better to them 'cause they aren't taking a massive hit on the hardware (I don't know that OG Xbox ever sold for a profit) and software sales (licensing) have been really good. I still expect they're in the red this gen, and definitely still a ways away from making money overall.

I thought 360 was making for them (if not for the RROD warranty extension fiasco).

[Granderoho]

Opaque-

1. you never proved squat
2.I was talking about the PS3 and 360
3.I was being sarcastic
4.see # 3

[Frogacuda]

Ughhhhhhhhhhhhh, you guys kill me.

Ubisoft is pretty alright. I don't care much for the Tom Clancy stuff, but I love everything Michel Ancel does, they publish some neat import games that no one else will touch (Senko no Ronde and Advance Guardian Heroes), and they're working with Frederick Raynal on his next game.

I don't like Splinter Cell any more than you do, but Ubi's earned some credit over the years, I think. They're not in my top 5, but of the international mega-publishers, I like them a lot better than the likes of EA, Atari, and Activision.

[MarkRyan]

I thought 360 was making for them (if not for the RROD warranty extension fiasco).

They for sure lost money their first year, and while they're almost certainly making money off the hardware now and raking it lots on licensing, I dunno if it outweighs their losses on marketing / investment and the RROD debacle. With how conservative they've been this year (not at all aggressive on price versus PlayStation 3), I wouldn't at all be surprised if they're making profits finally (but I think their lack of aggression will hurt them long-term).

Ubisoft is pretty alright. I don't care much for the Tom Clancy stuff, but I love everything Michel Ancel does, they publish some neat import games that no one else will touch (Senko no Ronde and Advance Guardian Heroes), and they're working with Frederick Raynal on his next game.

I give 'em credit for some of the overseas stuff they've chosen to publish, but as far as development I've got no respect for them.

[Frogacuda]

I give 'em credit for some of the overseas stuff they've chosen to publish, but as far as development I've got no respect for them.

Not even for Ubi Montpellier? Beyond Good and Evil is so good. Ubi Shanghai can die, and Montreal is hit or miss, but I love their Montpellier studio.

There's a rumor floating around that Frederick Raynal (designer of Relentless and Alone in the Dark) is working with Ancel on a Beyond Good and Evil game, and if that's true it will be the greatest thing to ever happen to the human race.

[MarkRyan]

I plead ignorance on Montpelier--I haven't played Rayman 2 or Beyond Good and Evil. Both games turn me off with their art style so I never attempted to play them.