Reply With QuoteMaybe ask your doctor about Vyvanse. He probably already knows about it, but it's a newer dextroamphetamine that has a different formula and could provide a more stable mental state and is often less addicting than Adderall.
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My doctor and I upped my adderall script a couple of weeks ago. It felt pretty great and I was super motivated and enjoying everything until I realized I'd basically been tweaking out for a week and that it's not what the meds are for. Rather than call the doctor, I decided to go off for a few weeks and dry out to give my brain a little bit to relax. I knew what I was in for but it was still quite a shock to how depressed and sapped of energy I was. I had no desire to do anything other than be miserable and sleep every possible second I could manage. I just got over this and was feeling happy and energetic again and I came down with a stomach virus that put me in the hospital with really bad abdominal cramps. I've been having infrequent bowel movements a little at a time and I'm pretty sure my asshole has melted away. Think "Asses of Fire" from the South Park movie. This has me miserable again and is making me wish I never again have to take a shit of any sort. I'd trade any puking bug, flu, etc for this. The worst part is I've had to keep away from my son. Think I may be over the hill but I'm still very uncomfortable.
I'm sorry for all the details but I really had to vent all of that to keep from trying to surgically remove my digestive system myself just for a few minutes of relief before I die.
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Maybe ask your doctor about Vyvanse. He probably already knows about it, but it's a newer dextroamphetamine that has a different formula and could provide a more stable mental state and is often less addicting than Adderall.
Nordic Warrior
I've been considering it, plus I've heard the negative effects (jaw clenching, dry mouth, elevated heart rate) are often less pronounced with dextroamphetamine than with the mixture of l-amp and d-amp in adderall. I'm going to decrease my dosage when I see him again and see how I feel about it for sure. I'm even considering asking about a non-stimulant medication like stratera because I'm concerned about long term effects on my brain function. These recent happenings were positive though as I've got to go back to a non medicated state to see how I was functioning. I've definitely decided to lay out a good plan to use the meds as a tool to learn how to get to a place where I won't need them anymore.Originally Posted by MechDeus
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Good on you for making this your goal.
wish I had some adderall
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It's something that all health care providers should discuss with their patients but a lot neglect to do. The stimulant based meds don't have a lot of research done on long term usage and they are very addictive. Based on what I've looked up with long term methamphetamine usage, the long term effects can really be bad for the brain (of course most meth heads aren't using small dosages to control their add symptoms).
Basically the way my doctor described it to me was that because of my poor focus throughout my life, I hadn't learned to organize my thoughts properly. With the help from my meds and from cognitive behavioral therapy, I should be able to better organize myself and teach focus so I'll be "normal" and won't need any more help from medications.
When I first started my meds, I was always in a really good mood and came to really enjoy most of what I was doing. Unfortunately (and fortunately) I didn't realize this "honeymoon" effect was unsustainable and didn't really mean the treatment was effective/ineffective. I think this is what had me asking about dosage increases. A lot of people chase this and end up with pretty terrible addiction problems and move on to street drugs like cocaine and meth.
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The biggest problem with medication is people not adhering to the schedule or just not taking them, which could be why there isn't much of a focus on weaning off of them since most people just stop on their own (but usually not when they should). Long-term planning should be a bigger thing than it currently is, but there have been strides towards that overall goal and there are lots of things which have been implemented to help with that. Discharge and home care are really big things now (though a lot of that is because of the push for shorter hospital stays), and that will eventually trickle down more and more into "smaller" aspects like medication planning.Yeah, upping the dose is part of why I suggested something different. I would prefer an alternative instead of more medication, especially since even if the medication is required then tolerance tends to drive up the amount anyway (like with long term ADHD medication). Changing between different medications could be a method of having the body absorb it differently which could be all that's needed to help keep tolerance low.When I first started my meds, I was always in a really good mood and came to really enjoy most of what I was doing. Unfortunately (and fortunately) I didn't realize this "honeymoon" effect was unsustainable and didn't really mean the treatment was effective/ineffective. I think this is what had me asking about dosage increases.
Though I really need some more chemistry knowledge to explore that in decent depth.
Nordic Warrior
Unfortunately many stimulants have "cross tolerance" but can still have differing effects with even small chemical changes in the substance being used or the method in which they are introduced to the body. Amphetamine in particular has a rapid building of tolerance (a dosage can double to produce the same effect in 24 hours in heavy users) but from what I've seen, people using lower dosages don't have as significant of a problem with tolerance. Personally I like to take a drug "holiday" once a week (my doctor said this is helpful) to dry out a little bit. The "honeymoon" effect I described is common in many different substances and from what I read is only temporary and is what leads many people to addiction. It's the same concept as "chasing the first high" or rather chasing the "original" high. I do think that people on ADD meds should be monitored more closely for substance abuse as addiction occurs in many individuals who do not even realize they're developing a problem.
One thing I am very grateful for is the interest I've gained for studying the chemistry of these medications as it has been a motivating factor in my overall studies (I'm a chemical engineering major). I think I may be destined for a career in pharmaceuticals.
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