Ziff Davis Files for Chapter 11

**Andrew** · 31 Mar 2008, 05:45 PM

I kinda still like EGM. GamePro, on the other hand...

**YellerDog** · 31 Mar 2008, 06:13 PM

GamePro is a good magazine to read up until the age you realize the ProTips are really obvious and stupid.

I suspect at least a few TNL members are staunch subscribers to this day.

**Andrew** · 31 Mar 2008, 09:27 PM

Originally Posted by YellerDog

GamePro is a good magazine to read up until the age you realize the ProTips are really obvious and stupid.

It might have become magically good again, but I wouldn't know. I gave up in the mid-to-late 90s.

**YellerDog** · 01 Apr 2008, 12:37 AM

I mean, hell, I loved Nintendo Power right up to the point they started pimping the N64 like mad. (GameFan also had this problem --but then again, GF would pimp any "new" thing, throwing caution to the wind. They gave a cover to the goddamn Virtual Boy, for cripes sake.)

The comics and maps in NP were great.

**Drewbacca** · 01 Apr 2008, 12:48 AM

Originally Posted by The Gas

Pay attention. This is Ziff we're talking about, i.e. EGM, i.e. the guys who were harping about game publishers trying to influence their editorial content well before Gerstmann-gate. Their operation may have its share of problems, but integrity isn't one of them.

This doesn't address the quality issues.

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

I swear to god, if game magazines hired better writers than the websites did, I'd read. Hell, I read Edge and GamesTM sometimes. The days of magazines catering to the lowest common denominator should be over. The lowest common denominator has moved on.

The Meach has a point in that printed media covering gaming will never have the following politics or something more widespread will. But still... there are quality writers everywhere. If I ran a magazine I'd have NeoZ on staff for nothing but fact and analytics -- making sure people aren't saying wrong things to jeopardize the integrity of the magazine (which EGM and every other one do). You'd also have to publish less-than-stellar preview of games coming out that are supposed to be the next big thing. You don't have to slaughter them but act professional.

If a publisher refuses to hand you a preview mention it, and bury them based on the lack of confidence they have behind their product. Also make reviews 4 stars and force people to read a page or so on it to see how the score is justified.