Thirty Is the New Twenty

[Drewbacca]

Sell your kids for a buck. It's not personal, just business.

[Nash]

I'm turning 28 at the end of the year and I've only barely gotten away from my parents' place. I don't know how it is for the rest of the country, but it's just a lot harder in California now with how competitive things are. Despite graduating law school with good grades and nailing the Bar on the first shot, I'm only making approximately $40,000 a year, with no benefits, practicing in a field that I don't even like (civil litigation). I'm only doing it to pay my school loans and bills as I try to seek jobs in fields that I do want to get into, but everyone is looking for like 3-5 years of experience. The shit thing is that if I don't get out of what I'm doing, it'll be the only thing I know how to do, and I end up getting pigeon-holed. So I don't look down on any guy who's busting his ass but still can't get out on his own at 30. Getting away from your parents for the sake of it when you can't financially afford to do so isn't wise in my book.

[Gohron]

What is "serious progression"?

Not living your life dependant on other people.

While I know some members of this board are still in this category and may be much older then myself and can be considered my "e-friends", it's still a natural progression for mankind. You grow-up and then you move out and start a family or start something on your own.

In my own personal view of life, kids are supposed to branch out at a certain age and define themselves as human beings and contribute something to the further survival of the species. If my parents stayed together, my father had planned to kick me out at 18 (which is ironic, now that I'm helping him because of his problems with drug addiction). It was simply how I was raised and I always desired to hold some level of independance that couldn't be taken away from me.

With all that being said, if my current waivers don't go through with the military I will be living on a partial dependance of my girlfriend for several months until I can afford a needed doctors appointment, but regardless, I still work for a living and support myself to the fullest.

And don't get me wrong, if you still live with your parents, good for you, but it wasn't what I was brought up on.

[MarsKitten]

I still think extended familial support is a great thing. You have to wait several months to get a doctors appointment. My parents cover my insurance for me b/c they know I cannot afford it consistently and I get to go see a doctor whenever something bad happens.

Independence is a good virtue but it has issues in a world when a single income family home cannot reasonably support itself.

[burgundy]

men don't want to get married because men have no incentive to get married. our fathers and grandfathers had to get married and move out to either 1) get laid or 2) have a place to get laid. we don't.

also, this article was written by a humongous vagina

[Doc Holliday]

My father didn't have me till he was 27, his father didn't have his first boy until he was 29, and his father, my great grandfather didn't have his eldest son untill he was 27. This must mean the Hollidays are more evolved.

[Frogacuda]

I'm turning 28 at the end of the year and I've only barely gotten away from my parents' place. I don't know how it is for the rest of the country, but it's just a lot harder in California now with how competitive things are. Despite graduating law school with good grades and nailing the Bar on the first shot, I'm only making approximately $40,000 a year, with no benefits, practicing in a field that I don't even like (civil litigation). I'm only doing it to pay my school loans and bills as I try to seek jobs in fields that I do want to get into, but everyone is looking for like 3-5 years of experience. The shit thing is that if I don't get out of what I'm doing, it'll be the only thing I know how to do, and I end up getting pigeon-holed. So I don't look down on any guy who's busting his ass but still can't get out on his own at 30. Getting away from your parents for the sake of it when you can't financially afford to do so isn't wise in my book.

$40,000 isn't riches, but you could hardly say it's not enough to live on your own. I live in New Jersey, which is one of the most expensive states in the country, and while I was working part time and going to school I lived on about $8,000 or $9,000 a year. For a while when I started trying to live on my writing, it was not that much more than that. If you're working at least 20 or 30 hours a week, you can afford to move out.

[PaCrappa]

I left home the first time at 16 years old with no job. I came back a year later for about a year after my dad died but then my mom just kicked me out again when I was 18 with no job. If someone fitting that description can do it then anybody can. But I don't think it should be required nor do I believe it has any bearing on a person's value to society.

[kingoffighters]

I lived with my parents until I was 28 or so.... but wasn't for free. I gave my parents around $1000+ a month because that was the thing to do, to give back and take care of the family.

Until one day, I woke up and said that's fucking bullshit and I could live alot better and more privacy and way less than $1000/month (and this is back in mid 90s). Moved out and never looked back. Of course, my parents are still pissed about not taking care of them and shit.

[rama]

can we define moving out? i know a lot of people that have "moved out" but they have room mates (sometimes 3 or 4) or live with girlfriends/boyfriends. i only know 1 person who lives on their own. her place is pretty cheap and the neighborhood isn't that great. so are we talking about living completely alone or just out of your parents house?

i still live at my moms. i'd love to not be here but my financial situation is crap. i'm paying off student loans and some credit card debt. i have a shit job that i do work very hard at. i'm also doing some self publishing but there isn't a lot of money comming in from that right now. hopefully when i get a publisher things will change...but even other "succesful" comic artists i know have to work a shit job between projects or whatever.

i hate how this article kinda acts like there's only one kind of person out there who's living at home. i don't have or feel a sense of entitlement 'cause i have a bachelors. and i am doing the best i can with the situation i'm in. it's just how things are.