Election Thread 2016

[Advocate]

I find it more appalling that Obama's super pac accused Romney of murder, since Bain closed up GST Steel. One of the workers were laid off and his wife then died of cancer.



Major fallout from this ad ... On Obama's side.

[Diff-chan]

I don't care what Obama wants to do with it. It's a meaningless piece of information

Bush painted the same portrait of Kerry with a picture of him windsurfing - now that is meaningless. Especially when you consider that Bush is a Bush.

I think the fact that a rich guy can get away with barely paying taxes is a big problem in this country. The capture of the government by the the rich is something that should be discussed more. It's not because the rich dictate the debate. But it's a problem.

Romney has wanted to be President since at least 2006. If his 2006-2010 tax returns are dodgy, he's a giant dumbass.

You can talk about Obama never having a "real job" but Romney is the son of a governor and CEO. He's basked in privilege his entire life.

[Diff-chan]

Now that I clicked the link, it's one guy who is not associated with the Romney campaign. I don't understand how this is relevant. Obama almost certainly had no business being at Columbia, so who cares what he did once he was there?

That's my point. Romney wont wade into the Obama conspiracy weeds to wage a campaign. Romneys refusal to release his tax returns is going to be part of the campaign. We're not talking about his returns from 1990.

All campaigns try to paint a picture of the candidate. Thts how campaigns work. The right is trying to make Obama into a business-hostile Marxist. College records don't play into that. 2009 tax returns are definitely applicable to the story Obama is trying to set up. That's why they aren't comparable.

[Joust Williams]

Yeah, that kinda crosses the line.

But I do think there's a difference between a college transcript and recent tax return information. Does anyone really believe that he's stupid or something?
edit: beaten

[Yoshi]

Bush painted the same portrait of Kerry with a picture of him windsurfing - now that is meaningless. Especially when you consider that Bush is a Bush.

I think the fact that a rich guy can get away with barely paying taxes is a big problem in this country. The capture of the government by the the rich is something that should be discussed more. It's not because the rich dictate the debate. But it's a problem.

Romney has wanted to be President since at least 2006. If his 2006-2010 tax returns are dodgy, he's a giant dumbass.

You can talk about Obama never having a "real job" but Romney is the son of a governor and CEO. He's basked in privilege his entire life.

I agree with all of this. The only people who care what Romney paid in taxes are the class warfare, jealous types, because whatever he paid was within the law that was passed by a Congress very likely with a Democratic majority, so who's really at fault there?

edit: This is a kin to being pissed that a football team beat you because they used the forward pass and you didn't. How can anyone be faulted for playing within the rules? Fault the rule makers.

[Joust Williams]

No, it's akin to playing a sport where there might be one really large set of rules but the rules you can't take advantage of because you're never in a position to even take advantage of them are so ridiculous. And he will be a rule maker so...

[Yoshi]

The President isn't a rule maker by definition. And even if it were, he wasn't the guy that made the rules. It's catering to the whiners at its finest. It's just amazing there are so many of them with their boxes of tissues and their hands out. I don't believe it's the middle class that largely has an issue with what people pay in taxes, because they work hard and aspire to one day be that guy, no matter how realistic it is. It's no skin in the game burdens on society that bitch that they can't steal more of this money. And they shouldn't even get a vote.

[Joust Williams]

But he wants to be president, right? So he can just sit around while other people make the rules? He can do that now. I can do that now. I am doing that now in fact.

[Yoshi]

I don't understand the point you're trying to make, since I am confident you understand the three branches.

[Joust Williams]

Do you believe that as President you are responsible for shaping the direction of the country even if you don't have complete authority?