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  1. I just love that no matter what happens, Democrats will be in the White House and maintain control of at least one chamber, for another 20 years. That's Bush Legacy. Way to vote in the retard over the war vet in '00.

    Let's pray socialism works, because you tards and your religion fucked us all.
    Last edited by Doc Holliday; 14 Mar 2009 at 04:05 PM.
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  2. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    Six years wasn't enough time to fix the entire mess Clinton left. Bush wasn't flawless in execution, but Al Qaeada and a lending crisis were a couple of fairly large lumps of coal Slick Willy left under the tree while he was gluing drawers shut and stealing W keys.
    So you're making excuses?

    Because I was under the impression only the weak Democrats make excuses.

    Yoshi the Republican controlled government could have done a hell of a lot more to stop this then they fucking did. 6 years is plenty of time if you have the White house, House, and Senate. Like 9/11 the warnings were being issued, and the Bush administration left them at the bottom of the pile to leave for the next guy.

    It was always funny to me because the one thing you'd expect from a party with pretty much full control of the government is they'd start passing the shit they stood for almost immediately. But when it came to the economy they didn't do that. They just cut taxes and watched it burn, while turning a blind eye as the president gave out money like he was Jimmy Carter at a Section 8 housing convention.
    Last edited by youandwhosearmy; 14 Mar 2009 at 04:08 PM.
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    A tune that all can carry
    Burly says if we don't sing
    Then we won't have anything...

  3. Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    and six years wasn't enough to stop the Carter' Crash in '87!
    Oh Fuckballs, speaking of 1987...


    Russia could use bases for its strategic bombers on the doorstep of the United States in Cuba and Venezuela to underpin long-distance patrols in the region, a senior air force officer said Saturday.

    "This is possible in Cuba," General Anatoly Zhikharev, chief of the Russian air force's strategic aviation staff, told the Interfax-AVN military news agency.

    The comments were the latest signal that Moscow intends to project its military capability in far-flung corners of the globe despite a tight defence budget and hardware that experts consider in many respects outdated.

    Zhikharev indicated that Russia was looking only at occasional use of the facilities -- not setting up permanent bases in the region.

    He noted that the Venezuelan constitution prohibited establishment of military bases of foreign states on Venezuelan territory and described the Russian possibile use of the facility there as "we land, we complete the flight, we take off."

    Zhikharev said Cuba had a several air bases equipped with the long runways needed by the heavy bombers and said the facilities there were "entirely acceptable" for use by the Russian aircraft during long-distance patrols.

    "If the will of the two states is there, the political will, then we are prepared to fly there" to the bases in Cuba, the agency quoted Zhikharev as saying.

    The general also said that Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez had offered to let Russian strategic bombers use a military airfield on La Orchila island, a military base off the west coast of the country.

    "Yes, there has been such a proposal from the Venezuelan president," Zhikharev said.

    "If a relevant political decision is made, this is possible," he added.

    Russia resumed patrols by its long-distance strategic bombers in August 2007 after a 15-year hiatus, noting at the time that it was mirroring the United States which never suspended its global bomber patrols after the Cold War.

    Last year, Russia temporarily based a pair of Tu-160 bombers at an airbase in Venezuela in a carefully-choreographed display of force regarded by as a warning message to the United States.

    A Russian flotilla led by the nuclear-powered cruiser Peter the Great also joined Venezuelan navy vessels for manoeuvres in the Caribbean late last year, timed to coincide with a visit to the region by President Dmitry Medvedev.

    The previous US administration of George W. Bush officially shrugged off the Russian aviation and naval moves in Latin America, characterising them as more for show than anything representing a military worry for the United States.

    Last July however, a top US air force officer warned that Russia would cross "a red line" if it were to base nuclear capable bombers in Cuba.

    "If they did, I think we should stand strong and indicate that is something that crosses a threshold, crosses a red line for the United States of America," said General Norton Schwartz said on July 23.

    The Interfax report said there were three types of Russian aircraft capable of long-distance bomber patrols: The Tu-95MS, the Tu-160 and the Tu-22.

    It was Tu-160 strategic bombers that were sent to Venezuela for temporary basing last year. Each aircraft of this type is capable of carrying 12 cruise missiles that can be fitted with nuclear warheads.
    http://www.breitbart.com/article.php...show_article=1
    Quote Originally Posted by William Oldham
    Sing a song of Madeleine-Mary
    A tune that all can carry
    Burly says if we don't sing
    Then we won't have anything...

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    Quote Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy View Post
    So you're making excuses?

    Because I was under the impression only the weak Democrats make excuses.

    Yoshi the Republican controlled government could have done a hell of a lot more to stop this then they fucking did. 6 years is plenty of time if you have the White house, House, and Senate. Like 9/11 the warnings were being issued, and the Bush administration left them at the bottom of the pile to leave for the next guy.

    It was always funny to me because the one thing you'd expect from a party with pretty much full control of the government is they'd start passing the shit they stood for almost immediately. But when it came to the economy they didn't do that. They just cut taxes and watched it burn, while turning a blind eye as the president gave out money like he was Jimmy Carter at a Section 8 housing convention.
    It's not the government's job to prop up businesses. It's unfortunate that Clinton thought it appropriate to strong arm lenders into making bad decisions, but that's still the banks' problem. Fuck them and fuck bail outs.

  5. #705
    Quote Originally Posted by Doc Holliday View Post
    I just love that no matter what happens, Democrats will be in the White House and maintain control of at least one chamber, for another 20 years. That's Bush Legacy. Way to vote in the retard over the war vet in '00.

    Let's pray socialism works, because you tards and your religion fucked us all.
    It won't be 10 years, let lone 20. Hell, it may not be 3 for one chamber if the economy doesn't show some life. The House may turn over in 2010.

  6. Ok so you are making excuses.

    Just making sure.

    Btw. I hope this starts Chavez/Russian bomber thing starts another cold war. Then it really could be the 80's all over again.

    I want to get a chance to experience the scariest example of patriotic flag sucking this country has ever seen, "Better dead then red!"
    Last edited by youandwhosearmy; 14 Mar 2009 at 04:21 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by William Oldham
    Sing a song of Madeleine-Mary
    A tune that all can carry
    Burly says if we don't sing
    Then we won't have anything...

  7. #707
    Excuses and root causes are two different things. Also, if saying that taking action is the wrong thing to do is an excuse for not taking action, then so be it. I guess my excuse for not running over an old lady on the way home is that it's wrong too...

  8. Quote Originally Posted by youandwhosearmy View Post
    Ok so you are making excuses.

    Just making sure.

    Btw. I hope this starts Chavez/Russian bomber thing starts another cold war. Then it really could be the 80's all over again.

    I want to get a chance to experience the scariest example of patriotic flag sucking this country has ever seen, "Better dead then red!"
    Russia doesn't have the cash and world presence to start another Cold War, they may be a nuisance but they fell way far behind from the mid-80's onward. They were almost stupid enough to go nuclear (the world that is) in the 1960's but I doubt something like that will happen again anytime soon.

    China is an economic player now and give them another 10-20 years and there may be another "Cold War" with them but I don't think they intend to play that type of hardball.
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  9. Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    No, he did it by cost cutting. At least he recognized he never had the balls to use it I guess.
    The military cost cutting started before Clinton took office. I joined the AF in Sept. '92 and it was already underway. If you want to blame Clinton for anything, blame him for not reversing policy already in effect.

    Even so, we didn't do so bad. Hell, even Cheney admitted we did so well in Afghanistan because of the "Clinton military." Cheney of course said this three years after he admitted that he had overseen cutbacks when he was the Secretary of Defense. BUT IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!

    Quote Originally Posted by Yoshi View Post
    Six years wasn't enough time to fix the entire mess Clinton left. Bush wasn't flawless in execution, but Al Qaeada and a lending crisis were a couple of fairly large lumps of coal Slick Willy left under the tree while he was gluing drawers shut and stealing W keys.
    Perhaps if Bush had actually... you know, GONE AFTER BIN LADEN instead of rushing off like a retard into Iraq, something would have been done. But of course, IT'S ALL CLINTON'S FAULT!

    I know Bush sucked and the Republicans FUBARed America to the point that you've mentally blocked out the last 8 years, but blaming Clinton for everything is about as old as it is transparent.

  10. Quote Originally Posted by Melf View Post
    I know Bush sucked and the Republicans FUBARed America to the point that you've mentally blocked out the last 8 years, but blaming Clinton for everything is about as old as it is transparent.
    Clinton screwed up the financial markets like Gooch has been pointing out. Care to respond to those posts and not Yoshi's?
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