North Korean Rocket Launch (& New Nuke Test)

[haohmaru]

If all you're trying to tell me is why it hasn't happened, and not trying to justify it not happening, then we probably aren't disagreeing as much as I'd thought. But it sounded initially like you were really opposed to government research and called it socialist and all that. The government has always funded scientific research (at least for the last 70 or so years), this is just an underfunded field, in my opinion.

You know what? I'd have been a hell of a lot happier of Obamanomics had given those billions of (our) dollars to research like this instead of bailing out huge corporations that are going bankrupt anyway.

That being said, I still don't think its the government's responsibility. It might be humanity's responsibility. You might have difficulty finding funding for that.

[Advocate]

The argument of Frog and Hoah can be summed up with a video.

[Josh]

Or one picture:

[YellerDog]

Now That's Sour!

[Razor Ramon]

LOL I hate that photo.

[haohmaru]

I prefer Haribo Gummi Bears, myself.

[bbobb]

Also, had we not used the nuke, Japan would have fought until every last man was dead, they were that committed. At that point we would have had limited impact on our own soldier's death, as we would have carpet bombed them into nothingness. The alternative saved millions of Japanese lives as fucked up as that is.

This is incredibly arguable. I spent some time studying the dropping of the bomb and there are strong arguments for both sides. There's evidence to show that Japan was possibly close to surrender as well, along with evidence that it was not necessary to drop a bomb on a populated area, just showing it's power might have been enough. On the flip side, it is also quite possible that Japan was not going to surrender, and a land war would have been unreasonable for us to get into. Along with that, continued firebombing would have actually been far more devastating to Japan than the two bombs were.

And there's more beyond that. It's not cut and dried we had to drop the bomb/we should not have dropped the bomb. Anyone who states either of those as fact has no idea of the actual history.

[YellerDog]

Well, we ain't un-dropping the bomb.

[bbobb]

OR ARE WE?

[YellerDog]

...SHIT!