North Korean Rocket Launch (& New Nuke Test)

**Andrew** · 26 May 2009, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by bbobb

You know you're in trouble when Biff is actually on your side in an argument and still telling you to shut the fuck up. Take a hint Squall.

In a sense, I can see your point. It was brought up that someway, somehow, America could have done something to make Kim a little kinder and gentler in his world view. The sheer ridiculousness of even having to address that opinion should have been my first clue.

That having been said, much as I might disagree with him on certain issues, I respect that Frog is a person who often has a reasonable, well thought out rationale behind his political stances. Perhaps there was something that I was just missing, and so I decided to take it further. I might disagree going into the discussion, and I might still disagree when it's all said and done, but there is certainly no harm in a healthy, vigorous dialogue.

Unless you live in North Korea, of course.

**Frogacuda** · 26 May 2009, 11:40 PM

Originally Posted by haohmaru

See, I live in an area where they built a nuclear reactor from the ground up and finished it to the point of being ready to turn the "on" switch only to have it protested to the point of being never opened and a taxpayer burden for 30+ years and billions of dollars. I know what I'm talking about in the real world - which is where I live. "pig-ignorant" or not, it's reality. And, FYI, I'm not saying I agree with it.

Oh. My. God. PLEASE, for the love of god read my whole post before you respond, because it's clear at this point you don't even know what this conversation is about. Let me spell this shit out ONE MORE FUCKING TIME:

Nuclear Fusion and Nuclear Fission are completely different technologies. The reactor where you live is a Fission reactor. No Nuclear Fusion reactor has ever been built yet. That's the problem.

If there was a Fusion reactor, there wouldn't be protests, because, unlike Fission, it doesn't create radioactive waste and cannot meltdown no matter what. The people protesting where you are aren't ignorant, they're concerned (perhaps overly so, granted) with real problems of Fission power. This would not be the case with Fusion power because it doesn't have those dangers and byproducts. It cannot meltdown, it's physically impossoble, and it doesn't create nuclear waste.

If I was talking about technology that they've had on Long Island for 30 fucking years, why would we be having this conversation at all?

Not nearly as stupid as our government. Or, are you seriously going to argue that they are more efficient than Microsoft, Sun, etc... in procuring and advancing new technology?

It depends on the field. In technologies where you put a year of R&D into it and put something on the shelves, no, but in terms of long-term research like genetics and space exploration, government funding has been absolutely crucial. These are things that aren't immediately of direct commercial interest, but which benefit humanity tremendously in the long run. This is one of those things.

I'm not saying the government should release a new ipod or a version of Windows that works, but there ARE fields of research where we have to come together and say "This will be worth it in the long haul." We've been doing it for a long time. Put down the Ayn Rand, and turn off Hannity and realize this is nothing new and it doesn't make us commies.

Once we have the technology working, private industry takes over. We're talking about something that, at our present rate of development might take 40 years, but if we made it a priority we could have had it done by now.

**Othello Harrington** · 27 May 2009, 12:04 AM

Goddamnit neither of you two lazy fucks are going to do one thing about this issue, shut the fuck up.

**Frogacuda** · 27 May 2009, 12:10 AM

Originally Posted by Othello Harrington

Goddamnit neither of you two lazy fucks are going to do one thing about this issue, shut the fuck up.

Sorry, resume your think-tank session to save the world from North Korea. I'm sure Obama's listening.

**arjue** · 27 May 2009, 12:17 AM

Nobody talk about anything, ever!

**bbobb** · 27 May 2009, 12:29 AM

Except for how awesome biff and his $$$ is.

**Othello Harrington** · 27 May 2009, 12:45 AM

Arjue is right up there in the useless factor. Outside of some retarded one liners his whole game is to follow me around, blather, and fail...at the very least bbobb contributes something to the site.

Nick review dude's last few years, what has he done to positively charge TNL?

* Unless you sent him on a "troll biff" special operation. If this is the case, kudos, you passed go and collected 200 dollars because his purpose is beyond me.

**arjue** · 27 May 2009, 02:06 AM

Well actually i spend most of my time banning useless fucks before they get to 19000 posts. I don't follow you, you're just fucking everywhere, its not my fault that you're a stupid, randomly aggressive dick who lacks the substance to realize that he's not wanted. Of course you're gonna get ragged on.