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opaque.
Hostages? **** em'
Weyland is there in a last-ditch effort to see if maybe the engineers know something that can save his life. If it had turned out that they in fact did show him a way to save his life, it just might require a super-advanced surgery machine to pump the immortality into him, or something.
And besides that I really don't see why it's so insane that he put it in his daughters room. Again, it's the detachable super-safe pod. Weyland would only be interested in coming home if he was able to find a way to stay alive, so if that happened, great, now he's got a separate safety pod with a super surgery machine. If he doesn't find anything? Great, now his daughter is guaranteed to get home safer than anyone else. Win-Win.
It's really amazing that in a movie with so many other things to get bent out of shape over, you picked this. It really doesn't matter. Hell, even if it wasn't for the things I said (which are still plausible), it could simply be there to imply that the crew was expendable, that Weyland was so self-absorbed that he put a surgery machine in his daughter's room and didn't even calibrate it for her. Who cares.
opaque.
The thing is "could have been for" is a really shitty answer. he could have been a vampire, but because there's zero evidence of that, it won't be my go to explanation as to why he looked the way he did.
Im so hung up on that one point because its obvious they put the not for women line there to build suspence when a simple"this machine does not do that surgery" would have sufficed. There's evidence Vickers wanted it for herself. Theres zero evidence in the form of spoken dialogue or ship construction that shows it would be for him. That sugery scene was laughably forced and negates entire discussions with vickers, her father and the types of characters both of them were ment to be if it actually was for him.
Its like dumbledoor being gay after the books are done or the lost island being purgatory after they swore it wasn't. Its shit writting and people want to excuse it for fuck knows why.
Every other problem people aren't excusing so there's less point to go into them. We all agree SOMEONE should have said something when the main chicks shows up for the last mission after beating her way out of going to quarantine and cutting that thing our of her. I don't need to say any more about most of the stupid shit here.
Last edited by Opaque; 18 Jun 2012 at 05:59 PM.
Now this, this actually makes sense.Originally Posted by FirstBlood
Can you dig it?
Maybe Ridley Scott is pro-life and refused to include an outright automatic abortion machine in his movie?
Lost in an Odyssey
Right on.
Drive By
Finally got to see this a few days ago and liked most of it. It's got some cool ideas that get confusing, raises more questions than answers, but I never thought this movie was going to lay everything out about Alien. The movie looks absolutly incredible and I think I need to see it again to pick up more, I'm really interested to see what was cut.
I don't think so, I'm with FirstBlood on this detail. Do you remember how Vickers reacted when the machine was discovered? They're like wow, this is a crazy life pod. She answers with the idea that she likes having all her bases covered in case of an emergency. Then Shaw goes over to the machine and Vickers tells her not to touch it. When asked what it's for she gets really shady with her answer, she pretty much shrugs them off and tells them to move on. The selfish mentality of Vickers' and her father still works. They put their life before anyone else. She lived in an escape route and her father put a Emergency Last Ditch Effort machine with her (the person who knew everything). I'd put it in the same place I think. The guy was completely obsessed with immortality, who knows all the crazy shit he's thought of. That might be the sanest idea he's had in years.
The part that really bugged me was after the ol' emergency surgery, Shaw doesn't even try to tell anyone about what happened. That David can't be trusted, some shit grew in her overnight and watch the fuck out for whatever the fuck is now wriggling around in the room down the hall! She's practically crawling down hallways, sweating like a maniac for the rest of the movie and no one bats an eye at her.
ha ha, that would explain the hostility about her dad saying david was the closest thing to a son he had, too.
Lost in an Odyssey
IGN compiled a REALLY good list quotes from various interviews done by Ridley Scott and Damon Lindeloft and put it in a Q & A style fashion which give a lot more insight into the questions asked by anyone who's seen the movie. We even see a possible translation of what David said to the Engineer along with some other interesting info.
Check it out here: http://www.ign.com/wikis/prometheus/Official_Quotes
Some of it has me going "Aha!" and others have me going "Okay so why the hell wasn't *that* in the movie?".
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