A Canadian is Actually Right About Something

[YellerDog]

I dearly hope I am not still playing videogames by the time this all supposedly happens. I really want this to be the last generation then outta here.

[Shin Johnpv]

The 360 costs like $280 to make. Games on it look pretty alright. Games on a high-end PC look better, but not enough to make most of the population give a fuck.

What does that have to do with anything? You said the difference was getting smaller I said it was getting larger, I showed how so and you came back with yeah well people won't care about it. Most people as evident by sales don't give a fuck about the graphic difference between the Wii and the PS360, does that change the fact that there is a difference? No it doesn't.

Right, because PC gaming is plagued by a number of issues including an uneducated unserbase, confusing hardware branding, difficult development due to lack of standardization, and rampant piracy. So it's not exactly an ideal solution, either. As you said, it's about the money.

Then educate the userbase, get hardware devs to brand their hardware better, what the fuck are you talking about with lack of standardization? DX is pretty much the graphics standard outside of high end 3D apps where its opengl. There's always going to be rampant piracy, its just something publisher need to come to grips with. You said there was no option for them, I presented an option. If they really wanted to get behind a 1 standard they would with the PC.

Hoo boy, I guess we weren't even having the same conversation.

This is about the third parties adopting a third party standardized console, and having hardware companies be licensees. NOT about one of the existing or future first parties taking over.

It's the same conversation because for your magical perfect for everyone one console perfect standard future to happen, the 1st parties are going to have to be involved. This is what I'm talking about, when I say you're being naive. Start thinking about this in a realistic way, and realize just how many cogs have to fall into place and sync up for this to happen, and you'll realize its not going to any time soon.

If you're going to have this conversation then you have to look at and talk about every variable. You can't just say well if 3rd parties got together and make a standard everything would be perfect. Well what about 1st parties you think they're just going to go ohh hey that's cool we're joining you guys now wooot! Ofcourse not, and who sets this standard the 3rd parties get behind? Who picks what hardware goes into it, and a million other questions.


It's like well if you ignore all this other stuff and say this happens then this is going to happen, and there for people who say it can't happen are wrong! Its fucking asinine.

[kedawa]

First parties can choke on a dick. What are they going to do if the major publishers decide not to support their consoles? Nintendo might be able to make it on their own, but MS and Sony would just tank.

[Shin Johnpv]

I can't see how they'd get ALL third party support behind a standardized console though. I can't see that happening.

That's because its never going to happen. The closest this industry ever came to it was in the 80s after a huge crash, and even then it wasn't 100%. You still had quite a few devs who supports PCs, and devs who made exclusive games for other systems.

First parties can choke on a dick. What are they going to do if the major publishers decide not to support their consoles? Nintendo might be able to make it on their own, but MS and Sony would just tank.

Then you're back to a 2 console standard, just like when it was Sega and Nintendo, and then its basically no different. Don't you see how it just takes 1 or 2 companies to not want to be a part of the group to throw a 1 standard future out the window.

[YellerDog]

How the fuck do you even market a one console standard? DVD rules absolutely do not apply here.

[kedawa]

You don't have to market it at all. If it's the only console that has any software support, that's what people will buy.

[Frogacuda]

How the fuck do you even market a one console standard? DVD rules absolutely do not apply here.

Same way you market any system, by marketing the games on it.

[Cowutopia]

That's not really how the Wii markets itself.

[Frogacuda]

Ok, fine. The same way you market any content-driven platform, then.

[Cowutopia]

lol