Reply With QuoteYeah I forgot about the prisons seeding the population with millions of rehabilitated winners.
Just because they don't believe it doesn't make it the wrong way of thinking. If you believe a tooth for a tooth, you're brand of justice is archaic. To progress as a society we have to learn to cherish the lives of human beings.
Did you forget the original purpose of prisons in the U.S.? They are for rehabilitation. You can't rehabilitate death. Once we learn to care more about the person rather than the bottom line we'll be able to concentrate on it.
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Yeah I forgot about the prisons seeding the population with millions of rehabilitated winners.
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There is absolutely no evidence to suggest the death penalty in any way deters crime, murders, rapes or child molestations. Until you can prove that taking lives is nothing more than a false band-aid solution that panders to quick-draw McGraw retards the death penalty will never truly be any kind of scientific candidate for justice. It is idiotic retribution. If you're going to have order by law then you're going to have to give up the bloodlust and hate towards murders and rapists in the process.
Last edited by Drewbacca; 07 Sep 2009 at 04:27 PM.
Originally Posted by rezo
I'm fairly sure prisons original intent was not rehabilitation. It was where lords would stick naysayers and people who owed them money.
That's why I put "in the U.S." in there, champ. Too many fatties at work for you to pay attention?
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I'll paypal you a dollar if you can back this up with a factual link.
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I'd be willing to believe that people were told that rehabilitation was the intention. I seriously doubt that they really meant for them to be that way, though.
It's hard for me to link you to it since I did my study of U.S. prisons while in college and writing for a county newspaper. Back then I had Nexus Lexus access and books at my disposal. I was old-fashioned in college that way. Be that as it may, how can you not believe it's for rehabilitation? I mean, it's punishment. You're only punished so you don't repeat the offense again. Parents don't punish children for profit. They do it to instill life lessons upon them. What would we gain if we put people in prison just to have them in prison? If you truly believe that I see why you're for the death penalty. We may as well shoot first and be done with it.
To add to that, I believe it's the privatization of prisons that has planted the seed about costs trumping a life in this country. Here's a link (it's wikipedia so take it with a grain of salt but it seems fairly legit to me) with a section of the privatization of our penitentiaries.
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The parental comparsion is very apt. I think that's a part of the problem. People seem to have something invested in believing that they are better than the people they send to prison. It's important to them. They have to believe that people, who are actually their peers, are somehow lesser and need to be "taught a lesson." This mindset goes all the way back to the founding of the country.
I completely agree that the privatization has everything to do with perpetuating the prison industrial complex. It's hard for me to believe, however, that this has everything to do with the fact that prisons hardly seem to rehabilitate anyone.
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