This Just In: Nintendo Doesn't Get It

[Bojack]

There has never been a game that benefitted from waggle.

It doesn't belong.

Personal preference for me is that I'd rather waggle than mash. Besides, most of the time when one is mashing they're also waggling the pad. That being said for some reason devs are deciding to replace things that are done well with a button with waggling for some reason.

For the most part I do agree with TNL that waggle is fairly retarded and oft poorly implemented. Still a believer in the potential for motion controls.

[kedawa]

Button mashing is also retarded, but I've never once waved my controller around like a mongoloid due to pressing buttons.

[kingoffighters]

Here's how Nintendo can do it: Publish the Metroids, Marios and Zeldas on PS360. Release the casual games on the Wii. Nintendo will make even more money and everybody will be happy.

PS360 have enough garbages in their library, no need to add more.

[Pineapple]

Silly Asian, Metroid isn't garbage. It's the best Castlvania ever!

[Cheebs]

There has never been a game that benefitted from waggle.

Dreamcast Samba De Amigo is one of the greatest games ever. It is awful without waggle.

Personal preference for me is that I'd rather waggle than mash.

Eh... I like wagglemash in the new Excitebike if I'm in a tense race, especially online. When a dumb crash threatens my lead, I want to shake the controller furiously. But when I'm just puttering along a bronze cup course in single player... It would be nice if buttonmash was also an option.

Wagglemash + frustrated emotion = works

Otherwise, not so much.

[Cheebs]

And why all the waggle talk anyway? You guys make it seem like the Wii doesn't track the controller in any other way.

Pointing is awesome

Rotating is awesome (Bit Trip Beat)

1:1 Wii Motion Plus stuff is awesome



Give the waggle complaint a rest. It is clearly a dev problem, not a fundamental motion problem.

[kedawa]

It doesn't really matter to me what the source of the problem is, since I have no control over it.

[Cheebs]

It doesn't really matter to me what the source of the problem is, since I have no control over it.

You have all the control over it that you could possibly need: Don't play the shit you don't like.

The devs will have it all sorted out by next gen. Remember when CD games were either cartridge games marred by horrible voice-overs and long load times, or unplayable FMV shit? That lasted one gen. Now huge amounts of storage space are welcomed by all.

By the time the Ybox 720 hits the shelves packing standard wiimote+chuck style controllers, we will look back and wonder how we got along without it.

[Drewbacca]

The PS3's exclusives beat the living shit out the 360's in volume and quality. I thought this was just accepted as fact around here now. Perhaps you mean perception of Wal Mart shopping troglodytes?

Uncharted and Uncharted 2. That's everything I have played on the system I couldn't have done without. 360 also has hands down the best online system going. So any game that can utilize online in any meaningful way like Army of Two, GRAW 1 & 2, Rainbow Six Vegas, Mercenaries (which sucked), Modern Warfare, Crackdown, Ghostbusters, etc. are all a better buy with the 360. And because of that even single player 3rd party games like Assassin's Creed, Arkum Asylum, and Brutal Legend are a better purchase on Xbox (maybe not Asylum for the tacked on Joker levels) and make the 360 a much better bang for your buck BECAUSE you don't have to buy another system to get them. The PS3 does have a wicked blu-ray player. But I already have a blu-ray player.

It's just a better value for me. I bought a PS3 last year and I've only played 3 games on it that I would consider great experiences. I played Infamous too. That game was bland and forgettable. I knew it was a mistake buying a PS3 going in to it when I was looking at racing games like Dirt to try and justify the purchase. It doesn't even play PS2 games anymore. Thank god Uncharted 2 is so good. It's really the thing the system has to hang its hat on.

Little Big Planet, MGS4, Demon's Souls, inFamous, Ninja Gaiden Sigma... plenty of great PS3 exclusives. The reason to buy the 360 is Live.

Little Big Planet is a chore. MGS4 is pretty good. Not a huge fan of MGS after 2. inFamous is fun for the first few hours. After that the game design is repetitive and the setting in general seems a bit half baked. Not a huge fan of Ninja Gaiden style action games. Nothing I would actively buy a system just to play.

[Phunbubbah]

"How could Nintendo, yet again, try and claim back this lost [hardcore] audience? Leave your thoughts below..."

Here's how Nintendo can do it: Publish the Metroids, Marios and Zeldas on PS360. Release the casual games on the Wii. Nintendo will make even more money and everybody will be happy.

Since the N64 days I've only ever bought Nintendo systems for games like Zelda, Mario and Metroid. If they were published on the big boy systems I'd never buy a Nintendo platform again.

Nintendo and Rare had some really good games back in the mid to late 90's though. Oh well... I bet so long as Nintendo keeps making money off of their Wii-Shit shovelware titles they won't be so motivated to develop any real games.

OH! And their complete lack of online network gameplay is horse shit.