Whatever Happened to Sonic

**Mzo** · 03 Jan 2010, 06:21 PM

I think he is referring to Subcon.

**Drewbacca** · 03 Jan 2010, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by Low

Sonic is due for reinvention. The Adventure games were suitable at the time but they definitely shouldn't serve as the departure point for every console outing since. I wasn't a fan of Dark Chronicles but it was a thoughtful take on new designs and backdrops instead OK this time we'll do a Arabian sonic, Knight sonic, Werewolf Sonic, Anti-hero Shadow, and so on.

It's SONIC. I'm not sure if I'm reading you right here, but do you want more depth in your Sonic story? What kind of rich backstory are you expecting from the series? Any story needs to be an excuse for Sonic to run fast and collect rings. Anything else is wasted time. It would be like Bowser turning out to be Mario's father. Nobody cares. Let me stomp goomba's and jump around.

**Frogacuda** · 03 Jan 2010, 06:31 PM

Originally Posted by NeoZeedeater

Sonic's effect on platform game character design and gameplay was huge. For better or worse, without Sonic I don't think we would have had Bubsy, Jazz Jackrabbit, High Seas Havoc, Superfrog, Crash Bandicoot, Quik the Thunder Rabbit, Aero the Acro-Bat, Zero the Kamikaze Squirrel, Awesome Possum, Rocky Rodent, Mr. Nutz, Zool, etc..

Sonic really set the tone for 16-bit platformers in general. Until then they seemed like prettier 8-bit platformers, and after that, they all had to have rolling hills, physics, and 4-way exploration. Not that Sonic invented those, but like I said, it kind of set the tone and showed off something that the last generation of hardware could never do.

**Frogacuda** · 03 Jan 2010, 06:35 PM

Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me

Was Unleashed that bad? This actually looks pretty great aside from the Input This Sequence of Buttons For No Reason parts:

Depends on if you wanted to play a platform game or if you wanted to play F-Zero with a hedgehog.

Unleashed pushed too hard for speed to where it became this ridiculously linear racetrack where you're constantly going a million miles an hour, which isn't what Sonic was. Sonic was about trying to use the environment to keep your momentum up. The Adventure games actually got that right, but Unleashed is miles away from it. Also the werehog levels are the worst thing ever.

I think to fix Sonic, they need to bring back the roll as a critical mechanic in maintaining your speed, and also bring back the need to actually land jumps and keep your momentum up to reach new areas.

**Will** · 03 Jan 2010, 06:38 PM

Originally Posted by A Robot Bit Me

Was Unleashed that bad? This actually looks pretty great aside from the Input This Sequence of Buttons For No Reason parts:

That looks really cool but it seems like you have very minimal control of the character most of the time along with all the timed button presses.

I'd prefer more control personally. I tend to play the Gamecube Sonic Adventure DX the most out of the lot but it kind of sucks that there hasn't been a good Sonic game after Sonic Adventure and to a degree Sonic Adventure 2.