Why Is College Hella Wasteful?

[Calliander]

Your disdain for your fellow man is to be expected, considering you're so much smarter than all of them.

Thanks.

[Fe 26]

You don't know shit about me, Cheeks

I know there is nothing special about your intellect.

But if you want to cry because I told you were smart and hard working but not smarter than the top 10% of the country, go right ahead.

"wah, wah, wah, IP didn't juggle my balls as he sucked me off"

[Diff-chan]

That isn't a very good indicator. There are plenty of good people that have screwed up prior to wanting to change their life or take their life in another direction.

Like I said, they can go to community college. That's what it's there for.

We have people on this board that are really smart but fucked up in high school or college. I'm not going to tell them they can't go to a good college because the last semester they were in school, they got a bunch of D's or F's because their dad died or the found out how good pot and pussy was.

And I'm not going to tell the B+/A- student they can't go to college because of some C-/D dipshit that fucked around for four years but stumbled on a trust fund took their place.

[Fe 26]

And I'm not going to tell the B+/A- student they can't go to college because of some C-/D dipshit that fucked around for four years but stumbled on a trust fund took their place.

That rarely happens. If ever.

[Crafter]

As a professor in the humanities at a research institution, I can tell you that, yes, college administrators are often retarded. Universities have become solely a business, with little to no standards for student entry--all so they can get money to waste on bombastic and ridiculous shit. I feel sorry for adjuncts. They have to slave away on meager pay with no hope of an increase in salary, literally having no time to look for jobs because of their 5/5 teaching load. Meanwhile, a new, painfully tacky gate that costs $2,000,000 is erected in front of the school.

[Diff-chan]

That rarely happens. If ever.

Like I said seats are limited. I think they should go to people who have proven they give a shit. That's all.

[Melf]

Get the fuck outta here. No way a serious college is getting away with only $45/credit. You're just bullshittin' us.

It's true. What's worse is that if they have all kinds of exemptions, like for band or sports, and those people not only pay nothing, they get the full Pell Grant as well. My wife's co-worker's daughter got in for band and used the grant money from her 4 years to buy a car and pay for her wedding. It's total bullshit.

I don't know, it seems weird to say that a system built on grades and achievements should allow people with shitty grades and no achievements in just because they have money. It kind of dilutes it all.

I agree with this, but the problem here (at least) is that the university with the 3.26 minimum GPA entry requirement is the STATE university. All the private universities have a 2.00 entrance requirement. Not only does UPR only accept those with a 3.26 average, but you might not even get into your program unless you have a higher average. For example, my ex girlfriend got into the university, but she needed to raise her GPA to meet the 3.49 minimum to enter chemical engineering.

I fucking HATE to see UPR students on strike -which is all the god damn time - because they don't want tuition prices raised. These people pay shit for college and want all the prestige of a private university but with all the perks of a public one. You can't have it both ways. Whenever some UPR douche starts talking about how much better it is than any private university, I suggest that they could raise the tuition to the same as any private one here (roughly $150 per credit hour), and registration would stay the same. I never get an answer to that one, and it's because they know people would bolt. Everyone I talk to says they're at UPR because it's so cheap, not because it's so much better. Hell, I taught there for a year and a half, and it's basically the same shit.

[Razor Ramon]

I know there is nothing special about your intellect.

But if you want to cry because I told you were smart and hard working but not smarter than the top 10% of the country, go right ahead.

"wah, wah, wah, IP didn't juggle my balls as he sucked me off"

You know what happens when your degree gets diluted in an ever-expanding pool of college graduates? You have to go farther into your field to earn yet another degree. That means more money and more time. We're already seeing what happens when so many college degrees are floating around. Jobs start demanding that you have a degree even for the most mundane job. Even if you want to put away papers or answer phones for the rest of your life employers are asking if you have a college degree. You'll go into debt only to earn $12-15 per hour at best. You'll then be in debt for 20-30 years only to have your loans forgiven, have Uncle Sam foot the bill, and have a totally worthless piece of paper.

Not everyone needs to go to college. Not everyone is built for it. So having completely free colleges will only have the best of the best really competing especially if the education they are giving out is worth the fight. You can have private institutions that can pick up the rest of the slack (community colleges) and everyone gets happy.

The way the system is going it cannot sustain itself. Constant tuition hikes are just going to bury students in debt. This is all so everyone can get their damn college diplomas. I'm not against anyone earning a high school degree or even getting an apprenticeship or going to a technical school. Do you really think these people will do anything with a Philosophy degree? All it does is water down the employment pool and raise the sense of entitlement without working for it. All it does is make me have to go through more hoops to get a degree to make people think, "okay, he can do this job."

But go on believing everyone going to college is a great success. That dude handing you your morning latte probably has one himself.

[Josh]

Education is for people to improve themselves. Not so some can have status and feel superior to others.

What country do you live in?

[burgundy]

I'm perfectly fine with a system that allows ANYONE to take out a loan and go to the school of their choice for the major of their choice.

i hope you're also cool with the skyrocketing cost of education in this country because the one and only thing driving those costs are the ready availability of loan money regardless of merit and future ability to pay

It is because they didn't have the grades to get into a good college back home.

then they, like our academic underachievers, should stay the hell away from higher education and learn a trade

Education and knowledge shouldn't have to be earned. It should be there for anyone that desires it.

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