It took Mel Gibson being an asshole for TNL to show it's true colors.
It took Mel Gibson being an asshole for TNL to show it's true colors.
But that's in South Africa. You're basically saying racism isn't normally relevant to black people in America, and when it is it's newsworthy. That's fucked up and incorrect.
No, you (and a few others) are saying you can't be racist unless you demonstrate it to ALL members of a race, and that there's no room for inconsistency or hypocrisy among racists. That's stupid.Nobody is arguing racism isn't subtle. Everyone is saying that.
Agreed. He can also be nice to Whoopi and be a racist in most of his interactions with blacks. I DON'T KNOW IF MEL IS RACIST TOWARD BLACKS, there's not enough evidence either way. That's all I'm saying. Period. Stop imagining a fake argument where I give a fuck if someone says nigger on the phone.Mel Gibson can say nigger and not be a racist.
Ah, I see. Because racists are 100% logical and always driven by reason and not emotion and ignorance, therefore there are never inconsistencies in how they treat different people.A racist would hate Whoopi because she's black and inferior because of that and most likely attribute her success to the desecration of society.
Thank you, white boy from the middle of nowhere Canada, for telling me how racism works. Because I didn't grow up in the ghetto, and I didn't live in minority neighborhoods my whole life, and I don't know any black people and I don't see people treat them like shit and then smile at others. Because I haven't dated black girls for most of my life and seen people who were PERFECTLY FINE before suddenly turn into racists because now I'm dating a black girl. I guess I HAVE NO EXPERIENCE with racism so I don't know the fucking CBC Racism Manual that all racists follow.
You're just ignorant. I'm not going to let you lecture me on this.
Last edited by Frogacuda; 22 Jul 2010 at 03:07 PM.
I was totally with Frog until he pulled out the "Canadians can't know racism" card.
When Neo speaks, you fucking listen.
I didn't say that. It's just obvious to me that Drew doesn't have a good feel for the kind of racism I've seen in my life. I'd chalk that up to growing up with different experiences. I didn't throw in all of Canada or all Canadians, but it's just obvious to me he doesn't have experience with how hypocritical racists are.
I'd have said the same thing if he was from anywhere else where the racial dynamic would be different (obviously racism still exists everywhere, but it's definitely different in different areas).
Maybe he does have a wealth of experience with it and he's just dumb, I don't know. I'm spitballing.
Last edited by Frogacuda; 22 Jul 2010 at 03:33 PM.
Mel Gibson is awesome.
Frog: God dammit, I did it again. I hit edit instead of reply and the interface looks the goddamn same.
Last edited by Frogacuda; 22 Jul 2010 at 05:37 PM.
Originally Posted by rezo
No, you don't know racism so you don't know racism. This is either because you haven't been exposed, aren't very observant, or are being willfully ignorant.
Alright, Drew, motherfucker, I want you to supply quotes to show me where your kooky bullshit is coming from. And to prove to me you can read. Just fill in the blanks where I say anything like any of these:
Show me where the fuck I said anything like this. Please.1) Whoopi and Mel are an isolated incident.
Again, show me where I said anything close to this. I never said cheeks doesn't live with racism, he just confused the words "racist" and "bigot." It was an argument of vocabulary.2) Cheeks lives in the south but somehow doesn't experience the same kind of uppity sister-in-law racism you do.
And I never said you did. It was a reductio absurdum argument based on narrowing the definition of racism into something uncommon. I said the kind of absolute, across the board extreme racism (i.e. Klansmen, Neo-Nazis, and institutionalized discrimination) is uncommon enough that most people don't have to deal with it in their every day lives.3)I also never said racism isn't normally relevant to black people in American.
I said like THREE FUCKING TIMES that I never said anything to the contrary, and you're STILL FUCKING ON IT. I agreed with the statement the whole time. What does this have to do with all the wrong shit you said after it?4) I said just because someone says nigger doesn't mean he's necessarily a racist.
Also:
You aren't making an argument. You're just willfully insisting that smiling at Whoopi Goldberg means you aren't racist with no logic or argument whatsoever.When you can't refute the argument of someone you tarnish their credentials for posing it.
Ha, I totally thought you were from somewhere in Alberta for some reason. All the less excuse you should be so completely blind to the obvious.And apparently Toronto is the middle of nowhere Canada.
Last edited by Frogacuda; 22 Jul 2010 at 05:49 PM.
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