Despicable Me

[Shin Johnpv]

There's more than 3 others. There's Blue Sky Studios, ILM (their first one isn't out yet), Starz Animation, Laika (first one not out yet either), Framestore, Imagi (though they're closed now), Disney, and Vanguard Animation. Just to name a few.

[Finch]

Hey! Stop acting like an ass! No one is going to think James is a jerk besides you and no one is going to think you're not a flaming ass hole except you.
Dreamworks is the other big animation company. Horton Hears a Who, Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs, and Surf's Up were all great movies, but i don't know who made them, and neither does anyone else if they're not a Dreamworks or Pixar movie.
Before i heard otherwise, i really though Despicable Me was a Dreamworks movie, and i didn't give a shit about it. As soon as i heard otherwise, my interest shot up a hundred fold. All i know is that Dreamworks sure does shit out a lot of shit with Actor of the Day starring as himself. Two good chunks of corn in a torrent of diarrhea aren't going to convince me that all of a sudden Dreamworks is a quality company. In fact, whenever i see a preview for a cg animated movie that doesn't explicitly say it certainly is not a Dreamworks movie, i stop paying attention because i think it might be a Dreamworks movie. So yes, Dreamworks really did poison the well. They dumped Aardman in there, took a steaming shit on Aardman's carcass, and then threw up all over it.

[James]

Blue Sky Studios- Ice Age, Horton Hears a Who, Robots. Their heart is in the right place but I can't say I've really enjoyed anything they've done aside from the phenomenal visual creativity of Robots.

Starz Animation- 9. Haven't seen it, but I didn't hear great things. Nice style, though, and I do plan on watching it at some point so I can actually have an opinion and maybe even be pleasantly surprised.

Framestore- No idea. Unless there's another Framestore out there, they appear to be a special effects studio. If they've got an animated anything, I couldn't find it.

Imagi- Astro Boy, Father of the Pride tv series. Neither of which strike me as bad or good, but merely filling up space.

Disney- Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, and Bolt. I still haven't seen Bolt yet, but the first two were adequate at best. Meet the Robinsons has some funny bits (You didn't think this plan all the way through.) but not much else.

So for CGI animated stuff we've got Great on one side with Pixar, a huge shit-pile on the other with Dreamworks (who, to be fair, seem to be trying to get better), and a lot of filler in the middle. Looking over this list, the best I can hope for from a non-Pixar CGI is a painless entertainment experience. I can't say that actively enjoying Despicable Me the whole way through was more than I could hope for (otherwise I'd have just stayed home) but it was a nice surprise.

James

[Drewbacca]

If that was truly how the general public felt than those DW films you hate wouldn't make more money than the Pixar films, which a lot of them do. I also don't see how because it uses animals that are talking it's less of a movie. Disney has done this a shit ton of times, and Pixar also did it plenty. Bugs life, bugs who can talk and act like people, Monster's Inc, monsters who can talk and do things like people, Finding Nemo was already covered, Cars, cars can talk and act like people.

The only DW movie to make records was Shrek (and now How to Train Your Dragon, and I think Panda held on to a title before Wall-E wiped it off the map). I hated Cars. And the monsters are not objects. Each monster was designed from beginning to end, so I don't feel that analogy works. And I didn't like A Bugs Life that much, either.

That wasn't my point though. My point was why not go see any animatedmovies except Pixar ones when 1 company out of 7 - 8 of them makes movies you don't like. It's like saying I'm not playing any games not released by Microsoft because Activision puts out games I hate! It's a stupid idiotic reaction. Akin to some one who has their head up their own ass.

You're right. Since DW didn't even have anything to do with this the comment doesn't make THAT much sense. But there are Pixar movies - where you're guaranteed a good time / movie. There hasn't been one bad Pixar movie, despite me not liking Cars I think it was a good story. I'm just not a car guy. But you WOULD say that you're not looking forward to the new Microsoft WW2 game. Because every developer and his dog has done WW2 shooters to death. And that is an actual scenario that happened in the early 00's.

To be pointed - I don't at all think you're a flaming asshole like Finch does. I think you're really close to this industry and it's a personal issue for you. But I don't think James was shitting on the industry in any meaningful way. I took his comment with heaping tablespoons of facetiousness.

[Shin Johnpv]

Blue Sky Studios- Ice Age, Horton Hears a Who, Robots. Their heart is in the right place but I can't say I've really enjoyed anything they've done aside from the phenomenal visual creativity of Robots.

The first Ice Age was a great movies as was Horton. Robots is considered their worst movie by far.

Starz Animation- 9. Haven't seen it, but I didn't hear great things. Nice style, though, and I do plan on watching it at some point so I can actually have an opinion and maybe even be pleasantly surprised.

9 wasn't all that great I'll give you that.

Framestore- No idea. Unless there's another Framestore out there, they appear to be a special effects studio. If they've got an animated anything, I couldn't find it.

The did the Tale of Desperaux, which wasn't bad.

Imagi- Astro Boy, Father of the Pride tv series. Neither of which strike me as bad or good, but merely filling up space.

They also did TMNT. TMNT and Astro Boy are more than just filling up space, and worth watching.

Disney- Chicken Little, Meet the Robinsons, and Bolt. I still haven't seen Bolt yet, but the first two were adequate at best. Meet the Robinsons has some funny bits (You didn't think this plan all the way through.) but not much else.

Chicken Little and Meet the Robinsons were both better than adequate at best. Bolt was pretty damn good as well, and Tangled is looking like it'll be a damn good movie. I thought this out fine you just have shit taste in things.

I noticed you left out Sony Imageworks which made Surf's Up and Cloudy with a Chance of Meatballs which were both the best movies in the years they came out. Just as good as a Pixar movie and if you haven't seen them you need to.

Looking over this list, the best I can hope for from a non-Pixar CGI is a painless entertainment experience.

I stand by my statements that you have shit taste from your head being up your ass. Try to be a little bit more facetious next time.

The only DW movie to make records was Shrek (and now How to Train Your Dragon, and I think Panda held on to a title before Wall-E wiped it off the map). I hated Cars.

Actually Wall-E did 521m world wide, and KFP did 631m world wide. Outside of Over the Hedge (which was fantastic people seem to forget it and that DW did it) and Monsters Vs Aliens the DW movies have done really well at the box office.

You're right. Since DW didn't even have anything to do with this the comment doesn't make THAT much sense. But there are Pixar movies - where you're guaranteed a good time / movie. There hasn't been one bad Pixar movie, despite me not liking Cars I think it was a good story. I'm just not a car guy.

Don't get me wrong the Pixar movies are for the most part great movies, but they have their flaws too and aren't perfect. Wall-e loses its magic as soon as they get to the ship, Cars even story wise is boring and uninteresting to me. I am a car guy and I didn't like Cars. Plus it looks like they're going into sequel land for the next few years, TS3, next up is Cars 2 and after that is Monsters Inc 2.

But you WOULD say that you're not looking forward to the new Microsoft WW2 game. Because every developer and his dog has done WW2 shooters to death. And that is an actual scenario that happened in the early 00's.

Sure, but I think that's a different case than the one presented. It's like playing 1 bad WW2 shooter and turning a blinds eye to everything else out there. While it is a saturated market there have been some good games in it.

To be pointed - I don't at all think you're a flaming asshole like Finch does. I think you're really close to this industry and it's a personal issue for you. But I don't think James was shitting on the industry in any meaningful way. I took his comment with heaping tablespoons of facetiousness.

I didn't even read Finch's comment, and yeah I'll admit it is a close personal issue. I'm sure anyone would feel that way in regard to what they do for a living. I disagree though, I think saying that nothing is worth watching unless its from Pixar is shitting on the industry. Specially since the only reason its being said is because 1 company released movies you didn't like. Mostly that means the Shrek movies and Shark Tales. Because outside of those they've done a good job of not doing pop culture jokes and shit like that.

I'll admit I'm some one who has a passion for things, and I react accordingly. I'm sure anyone whose been on this forum for more than a month knows that. If that makes me an asshole then so be it.

[James]

Goddammit will you read what's being said instead of arguing with what you want to hear!?

Robots- fantastic visual creativity. Not awesome movie. There's a difference.

I didn't leave off Sony, I left off Vanguard Animation. I was going through the list of animation studios you put up and forgot about them. As for Cloudy With a Chance of Meatballs, which I actually enjoyed quite a bit, I just didn't notice it wasn't one of the listed movies. I don't do this for a living and I'm not heavily invested in the industry. I just know that Dreamworks has squatted out a lot of crap and they tend to make up the bulk of CGI movies.

James

[Finch]

I rest my case!

James did you see Despicable Me in 3D? I just read Ebert's review who said to avoid it because of the muted colors, but oh, some parts seem like they'd be amazing in 3D!

[Drewbacca]

If it makes you feel any better I think most people around here have called me an asshole at some point.

[James]

Nah, I saw Despicable Me in 2D. Mostly because that's how the theater in walking distance was showing it, but also because I've noticed (and griped about) the dimming effect 3D glasses have on color saturation and don't see it as a good tradeoff. If I see DM again, though, I'll definitely want to try it in 3D.

James

[Rumpy]

Astro Boy is NOT worth watching. Horrific writing on that one. Monsters vs Aliens was shockingly boring too.