"Are Whites Racially Opressed?" a.k.a. "How Hard Can CNN Troll?"

**Brisco Bold** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:03 PM

Originally Posted by Drewbacca

The last time I listened to him plan out America's big recovery his idea was to add a new carbon tax on to everything. There was another tax idea he had too. Both infinitely retarded.

I don't remember him saying that this time. Either way, there were opinions from other people on the program. Fascinating.

I like the Zakaria's program on Sunday. No bombast. Just people discussing the issues rationally.

**dave is ok** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:10 PM

Man, that family of four with an income of 20k sure are living large! Why should they not have to pay any income tax? I mean, 20k per year for four people? That's like 5k for each person!

**Fe 26** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:11 PM

Originally Posted by Some Stupid Japanese Name

You do what you have to do.
But my point is that it's hard for me to believe any given stat when you can't trust what the stat is based on. People will and do lie in order to get "free" stuff.
Like the woman in the big SUV complaining that her kids are going to starve because Popeye's ran out of chicken.

what are you going to do? Some people are never going to believe welfare queens exist because the data doesn't reflect it. And people like you can talk all day about how you've been in their homes and you've seen all this expensive shit, but their just going to claim you're crazy, or have an axe to grind, or its all anecdotal evidence ("well maybe that one family had lots of shit, but all these other poor people...")

The ironic thing is that the people that flat out reject that some or any poor people are gaming the system or lying, are doing so because they don't actually know any poor people or any minorities in the first place. All they know is census data and random shitty polls.

**Yoshi** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

Have you seen Fareed Zakaria's CNN special on how America can get back to being number 1? I think he wrote an article (Time, Newsweek?) about it too.

No, I typically stay way clear of CNN and Newsweek, but I'll see if I can find this.

**Some Stupid Japanese Name** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by dave is ok

Man, that family of four with an income of 20k sure are living large! Why should they not have to pay any income tax? I mean, 20k per year for four people? That's like 5k for each person!

Man, you completely missed the point! Why am I not surprised?

**Drewbacca** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Brisco Bold

I don't remember him saying that this time. Either way, there were opinions from other people on the program. Fascinating.

I like the Zakaria's program on Sunday. No bombast. Just people discussing the issues rationally.

I find him very one-sided but civil. I vary my opinions so I tend to staunchly agree and disagree with him depending on the issue.

**Razor Ramon** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:21 PM

Originally Posted by Master of 7s

What the hell is going on here? Why am I seeing an intelligent discussion about race in this thread? Why hasn't this devolved into name-calling and incoherent nonsense yet?

WTF TNL?

Jesus logged in and made this thread appear.

**Diff-chan** · 09 Mar 2011, 02:23 PM

They might not pay an income tax but they are paying SS/Medicare/Medicaid taxes, as well as local sales tax, government fees, and maybe even state income tax. "The poor don't pay any taxes" is simply not true.

And SS tax takes up a larger chunk of their income than it does for a rich person, since it's capped at 6.2% of ~$108,000. A person making $1M a year pays ~.7% of their income towards SS versus 6.2% for anyone under the cap.

edit: besides, nobody is even talking about "tax cuts for the poor." It's more about not seeing taxes cut even more for the rich. Especially if it means that important social programs need to be cut to balance the budget afterwards (this is about state level, not federal, since the federal budget doesn't "need" to balance).