"Are Whites Racially Opressed?" a.k.a. "How Hard Can CNN Troll?"

[Doc Holliday]

I don't even know what the fuck you're talking about. It stopped being fun to me, though, because I actually deal with this shit. Whites think it doesn't exist but it sure as fuck does all the way from birth.

I'm saying you don't have a right to complain about race and oppression before you own up to your indigenous side and recognize this is still your land. By your name, most Latin-Americans only go back one-two hundred years in their identity, when they need to go back five. You're going to sit here and bitch about it? Take your fucking land back! Looking at this article and this one, white people are becoming weak little squeaking pussies. The time's coming to fuck em over.

[Yoshi]

The cause is just the positive images of white people against negative images of minorities that conditions us all to associate these things, and the result is just a more favorable intuitive impression of a white person upon meeting them than a non-white. I don't know how to make it much simpler for you than that, but it makes it easier for whites to get a job, get a particular girl, get promoted, hell get a lighter sentence from a judge...

You're a professional. If you grew your hair long, and went to a job interview, do you think it would help you? Why or why not? No one believes your hair has anything to do with your qualifications. It's like that, people just develop associations that color their impressions of people, and these biases skew overwhelmingly in favor of whites.

I certainly understand your point, but I don't see it within my company. That obviously is one out of a million, so I'm not claiming to be able to have a broad personal view on this. You really think it's that bad in general? I guess Ramon is saying he sees it too.

[Josh]

You're a professional. If you grew your hair long, and went to a job interview, do you think it would help you?

I interviewed for a job at Johns Hopkins with long, greasy rock and roll hair, and the most epic chops this side of Andrew WK's bass player and got it. I make crazy money by looking homeless.

[Diff-chan]

Fuck you! You mixed bastards (and many of you aren't even that mixed) outnumber the official natives by 30 to 1 yet you can't even identify with that in your own moniker.

Although, honestly we probably treat you better hearing you say 'Hey, we white!' anytime you refer to yourselves than if you were like running in beating your chests calling yourselves the Cuachicqueh or something.

It's like that episode of Saved by the Bell: The College Years where Slater didn't even know his name was Anglicized so his dad could go to military school. Then he decided to go to a sit-in instead of a ski trip and Zack got pissed.

[Yoshi]

To be fair, Yoshi wasn't looking for a cause instead of a result. He was looking for a bludgeon to hit us with his crude worldview.

Bite me. I don't understand racism in business at all (I know this is larger than business, but let's focus there). It's nothing short of stupid to hire/promote a less qualified candidate, whether that is due to racism or affirmative action. I suppose there could be some gray area around the image Frog mentioned in terms of its effect on qualifications. For example, attractive people may really make better sales reps. But there are many, many jobs where it doesn't mean shit, as long as they carry themselves in a professional manner and have the skills necessary.

[Frogacuda]

I certainly understand your point, but I don't see it within my company. That obviously is one out of a million, so I'm not claiming to be able to have a broad personal view on this. You really think it's that bad in general? I guess Ramon is saying he sees it too.

It can be a difficult thing to see from the outside. It's something you notice over time rather than from big confrontations. The first time you don't get a job you thought you deserved, you go "Oh, well this shit happens," but the 15th time it becomes more apparent. Like Ramon said, this is a lifelong experience, it adds up.

[Yoshi]

The tough thing is getting an objective view though. No one wants to concede that they didn't have the qualifications, so they may blame something obvious, like race or gender. That's why these discussions are so difficult. You'd almost need access to all the resumes/interviews to know for sure what the root cause was.

[Razor Ramon]

My boss knows I'll be the first to say I'm not qualified for the position. When I was interviewed for a Public Relations position in my company, I told them, "I have no idea how to do PR. I'd love to learn so I'll be an associate to help the PR guy but I can't accept this position." I didn't take the job and work until I failed. But this last chance, I should have gotten the job.

[Diff-chan]

It can be a difficult thing to see from the outside. It's something you notice over time rather than from big confrontations. The first time you don't get a job you thought you deserved, you go "Oh, well this shit happens," but the 15th time it becomes more apparent. Like Ramon said, this is a lifelong experience, it adds up.

If you're benefitting from it, you probably aren't noticing it.

[Drewbacca]

Looking at this article and this one...

This article is lulz. As if all women are industry-defying pioneers. I know a lot of women that are TMZ-obsessed, debt-riddled shopaholics more obsessed with what Hollywood is up to than world politics or any "serious" things. This author is dogging dudes too much. There is enough "blame" (as if living how you want is to be ridiculed) to go around.

I certainly understand your point, but I don't see it within my company. That obviously is one out of a million, so I'm not claiming to be able to have a broad personal view on this. You really think it's that bad in general? I guess Ramon is saying he sees it too.

Don't you work from home?