Official Wii U Thread

[Yoshi]

I watched someone streaming Mario for a bit and it actually looks kind of good. I'd buy it if it didn't require a whole new system I don't want.

Steam port pls

[MechDeus]

You mean his statement predicating not a matter of if it fails, but when it fails, and how that will lead to Nintendo going third party? You mean the same exact argument that happened back with the GameCube around these parts?

How its a statement not even steeped in any kind of analysis, but more of a hope that this thing tanks? Much like how gamers in particular doomsay the end of Nintendo, year for year, for over a decade now?

Yep, that's me ignoring stuff all right.

The first sentence of your second line was all he said. Your first line is a bunch of stuff you just made up.

So hopefully you didn't mean your last comment to be sarcastic, because it's true.

[SpoDaddy]

When dumb purchases influence the industry, they matter. Sending the message that it's ok to charge $300-350 for 2006 hardware that is region locked and lacks storage is a pretty ridiculous thing to do.

edit: It's very similar to idiots who bought another 360 when theirs died. "It's ok to sell faulty hardware! We'll in fact reward you for doing so with additional sales!"

You're comparing apples and oranges. The Wii U is being sold for $300-$350 at a loss, it's not like Nintendo is making a junky $200 console and selling it for $300. The processing power isn't a drastic improvement over the ps3 and 360 because Nintendo is betting that an expensive new tablet controller is going to enable better new games than a big CPU boost. I think they're right, we've hit the point of diminishing returns. Remember how blown away everyone was by Mario 64, or Soul Calibur? That kind of dramatic leap hasn't happened in a while. I don't care about playing a higher resolution version of Halo, I want meaningful new gameplay ideas. As far as storage goes, I don't see Sony or MS letting me use external USB hard drives the same way Nintendo does. Sony is still trying to charge me a hundred bucks for a 32gb sd card.

The 360, on the other hand, was a shoddily made piece of junk that had no business being on store shelves.

[Diff-chan]

I also remember being blown away by Crysis, and Battlefield 3, and Just Cause 2, and so forth. I'm not saying that Nintendo's theory isn't valid, but there is plenty that can be done with better hardware. I mean, Nintendo fans said exactly the same thing with the Wii and motion control hasn't really panned out (although the GamePad should turn out better).

[Some Stupid Japanese Name]

Yeah, look at how many new gameplay ideas steemed from the Wii.
Its not like nintendo just shoehorned their gimmick into established gameplay ideas and let that be that.

[Yoshi]

You're comparing apples and oranges. The Wii U is being sold for $300-$350 at a loss, it's not like Nintendo is making a junky $200 console and selling it for $300. The processing power isn't a drastic improvement over the ps3 and 360 because Nintendo is betting that an expensive new tablet controller is going to enable better new games than a big CPU boost. I think they're right, we've hit the point of diminishing returns. Remember how blown away everyone was by Mario 64, or Soul Calibur? That kind of dramatic leap hasn't happened in a while. I don't care about playing a higher resolution version of Halo, I want meaningful new gameplay ideas. As far as storage goes, I don't see Sony or MS letting me use external USB hard drives the same way Nintendo does. Sony is still trying to charge me a hundred bucks for a 32gb sd card.

The 360, on the other hand, was a shoddily made piece of junk that had no business being on store shelves.

So you're a screenshot guy, because I don't see 360, PS3, or Wii U games all running at 60 fps with good AI at a native 1080p. Maybe I should try playing screenshots instead of games that move so Nintendo could fulfill my needs.

[ElCapichan]

I also remember being blown away by Crysis, and Battlefield 3, and Just Cause 2, and so forth. I'm not saying that Nintendo's theory isn't valid, but there is plenty that can be done with better hardware.

I agree. When it comes to consoles, there are other things that more power can provide other just better graphics. I'm pretty much done with games for the current generation, as I am happy with NHL for the time being, but I am looking forward to seeing what comes with the next Xbox. I'd like to see better physics, larger and more detailed environments (mainly the next Battlefield), more players in a single match (again, Battlefield, but this also has to do with current ISP tech), and Smartglass has me interested. Of course the simple answer is PC, but I don't play enough games to warrant building a PC, and I am mostly into online multiplayer and the friends I play with aren't PC gamers. I also have no qualms playing shooters on a controller and enjoy it.

[SpoDaddy]

So you're a screenshot guy, because I don't see 360, PS3, or Wii U games all running at 60 fps with good AI at a native 1080p. Maybe I should try playing screenshots instead of games that move so Nintendo could fulfill my needs.

Playing the next Halo at 1080p and 60fps instead of 720p and 40fps isn't enough to get me excited about new hardware. If it was, I'd already be playing everything on PC.

[Yoshi]

And that's fair, but that is where the next generation is headed. And if people want a second screen, MS and Sony already have that possibility covered.

[Deewtaei]

I like Nintendo franchises in addition to what I can get on the PS3 and XBOX. That about sums up why I support Nintendo hardware.