Rayman Origins

[Hero]

This game could've been released in July for $30 on every platform ever made

It just did.

Gamestop has it on sale for $30 new.

[FirstBlood]

So wait, the "numbers" tell you that "2D platforming sells" when the game this thread is about sold 50k units in a month across three platforms.

Jesus fucking christ you are dense.

[Some Stupid Japanese Name]

The numbers tell him that 2D mario sold more than 2 3D marios combined. Or at least, that's what I read.

[Shin Johnpv]

I dunno about that - Mario Galaxy 1 and 2 only sold a tenth of what New Super Mario Bros. Wii pulled off (and combined, only as many copies as Minecraft, of all things).

Where in the hell do you get your numbers? Because they are INCREDIBLY wrong. New Super Mario Bros Wii was at 21.94 million as of the middle of this year. Super Mario Galaxy 1 was at 8.84 million as of May of 2010. Super Mario Galaxy 2 was at 6.36 million as of the middle of this year. So let me ask when did 15.2 million start equaling ONLY 1/10th of 21.94 million? Also where the hell did you get your Minecraft numbers, as that has 4 million actual purchases as of November of this year. That's pretty far cry from the Combined 15.2 of the Galaxy series that you claimed Minecraft was equal to.

I'm not trying to knock NSMBW sales, cause it sold fantastically well, but don't try and make up numbers to knock the Super Mario Galaxy series cause I'd say it sold pretty fucking well itself.

If you're going to site sales numbers and use them for an argument at least make sure they're accurate.

[Hero]

sorry - my info was old? I remember reading when Mario Galaxy 2 sold 2 mil and Nintendo was like "see? It sold as many as Galaxy 1! Legit!"

Sorry about that - the same sentiment though. I really do think that if it was Mario alone that pushes this shit, 3D Adventure Happy Mario would sell just as well (or better) because of that. I just believe, with fingers and toes crossed, that 2D platforming is still viable and more mainstream-friendly genre than folks would have us believe.

[Hero]

So wait, the "numbers" tell you that "2D platforming sells" when the game this thread is about sold 50k units in a month across three platforms.

I dunno - I wanna believe it has long legs?

(or dense, whatever works)

[Finch]

Isn't Rayman one of those characters like Spyro, where people used to really like it but no one really cares anymore? I never played a Rayman game before this one, and other than this one, nothing's convinced me that i need to. This one, however, is a joy to watch and to listen to, even if the level design isn't quite up to that Mélio series.
It's like one of those pretty good Super NES platformers, like Plok. I'm happy playing it and i'll always have good thoughts about it, but it's not even as good as the worst real Super Mario game (which is 64. Then Sunshine. Then Galaxy. Then World. it's better than Mario Land 1 and 2 though).

[Mzo]

Mario sells because it's fucking Mario, and 2D Mario sells for nostalgic bullshit reasons. The Galaxy games are the best Mario games ever made. Tweak the difficulty up to SMB levels and they'd be perfect.

No ones gives a fuck about Rayman. He's ugly and French.

[bVork]

Rayman 2 is one of the best 3D platformers ever made. You owe it to yourself to at least try that one.

[Mzo]

The original Rayman wasn't that good, but it was OK. Rayman 2 on the DC was the business. Never played anything past that, though.