Reply With QuoteI actually really enjoyed wiring up the basement at my old place. There is comfort in signal flow.
This is why TNL is awesome.
For $65 this guy supplied everything, used tools that cost significantly more than the cost to have him install things and all of his work is insured. Assuming it took me just two hours to buy what I need and teach myself how to do the outlet install from scratch, he already saved me money. The risk and frustration of doing electrical work completely from scratch is not worth me losing money over. TNL has zero general contractors or civil engineers to my knowledge, and my family has four, who all said this guys prices were bonkers amazing and wanted his card.
I actually really enjoyed wiring up the basement at my old place. There is comfort in signal flow.
can't wake up
That's right.Originally Posted by Fe 26
Yeah, it was crazy low. And being ignorant of how to wire a house, you could go up into the attic and look at his work, and assuming he didn't do it with reused vcr power cords ducktaped together, you wouldn't have any idea if he did the job right. You could stare straight at it, but because you are ignorant, you are blind.
But whatever. I'm not going to bother with the normal book length post where I poke and annoy you in hopes that you might get better at one more thing, making yourself gain a little bit more skill and depth as a person. If I wrote it up, I'll get back a bunch of "But muh time" or "but muh money" or "But I donnawanna" and finally "but its hard. Its so hard. Learning is harrrddd. Its not fun. Its harrddddrdddrdrddrd"
I like to learn. I like building new skills. I like to understand and know what is in my walls, my attic and my basement. Others do not. And I don't feel like wasting my breath on convincing you otherwise if you're just going to double down.
Last edited by Fe 26; 19 Jul 2014 at 12:25 PM.
Do you cook all your own meals?
All of them. Every lunch. Every dinner? Do you make your own clothes? Program your own games? If not it's the same thing. Having someone else who specializes in something do it for you better, cheaper and faster than you can probably do it yourself is not always a bad thing.
Lets pretend that eating at McDonalds because I only have an hour lunch break is like you being ignorant of how most of the things in your house work.
I'm not ignorant of how they work. I rebuilt my pool filter and maintain all the chemicals, I'm installing my own fence and I've ripped out no less than eight bins of greens every week I've lived there. Built my shed in the back. We hung our own window covers, ran sprinkler lines, dug up a section of the yard so I could could replace a broken pipe on my pool return. I maintain our cars, build my computers and cook almost all my meals.
Not knowing the thing you know the most about is not being ignorant of my house. It's not knowing a thing, and based on possible risk and money savings, it didn't make sense to do all this myself. The worst case scenario of me wiring something wrong (he did a lot of work not just the outlet) outweighed the personal satisfaction of doing this particular thing myself.
Last edited by Opaque; 19 Jul 2014 at 12:37 PM.
As opposed to your spelling and grammar? It must be easy to see the wiring in your glass house.
Actually on topic, I found this on clearance at Target:
Electronic cigarette.
This thread got special pretty fast.
Alright handyman, where was this guy's profit? He ran wire from across the house, down a wall, to a new outlet. How far did he have to drive to get to your place? What did he use to cut that hole? cut the wire? Connect the leads?
so for $65 you got what?
15-20 feet of quality house grade wire
a new outlet with box, screws to mount it to the wall frame, wall plate etc
his fuel costs
whatever % this job will play into his tool costs
+lots of other jobs around the house
Lets hope he didn't wire your house with some old wire from the scrap yard and a wall outlet from his last job.
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