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If they're smart, they'll yank the character out of The Avengers and do a Hawkeye series based on the recent comic. It's pretty great.
Last edited by YellerDog; 21 Apr 2015 at 11:48 PM.
Originally Posted by Razor Ramon
Pizza dog pls
There's plenty of shaky cam in the dialog scenes though...
I've watched this up to like episode 11, so I'm enjoying it more than I expected to, but it does have some real flaws.
Vincent D'Onofrio stinks in this role. Everything surrounding Kingpin feels very forced. His chemistry-free, inexplicable romance feels like it exists solely to give him something to lose. Even the way he delivers his lines with slow, deliberate sadness feels phony all the time. They wanted to create a conflicted character, but in the end there isn't much character there at all.
The action is well filmed, but it's too flashy for the gritty tone of the show. I'd have liked quick, brutal, efficient fights more than a drawn out ballet of spin kicks and backflips off the wall. Maybe more of a personal preference.
Why do they never say "New York?" They only ever refer to "Hell's Kitchen" as if it's the name of the city, and they also act like it's a bad neighborhood, which it hasn't been in like 60 years. I get that being from "Hell's Kitchen" is a part of his mythos, but I don't think anyone would find it a betrayal of that if he worked outside of a 7 block radius.
Daredevil wrestles at length with how he doesn't want to kill anyone, and yet when he finally does kill someone (Nobu) he seems to forget it even happened the second afterwards. He even talks to the priest about how he didn't kill Fisk, but doesn't seem even slightly bothered that he killed someone else.
Killing in a fight being different from murdering someone outright, I suppose.
I liked D'Onofrio in this! I don't think he did a bad job at all.
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Yeah the big diffidence to me was that he was thinking about straight up assassinating Fisk while he was fighting for his life when he killed Nobu.
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The producers said from the beginning that they wanted to make this series a very street level series, focused very heavily on Hells Kitchen. That's why they don't have him wandering around Queens or Manhatten or Hoboken or where ever.
Just watched episode 4, kingpin reacted very poorly over the stupid date. It almost jumped the shark.
Hell's Kitchen is in Manhattan. They call it Clinton now and it's a nice area on the west side of midtown. It's where Comic Con is and shit. It's just oddly specific to only reference such a small area.
I could understand your confusion though considering Manhattan's skyline is always shown across the river in the background. I guess there's a large mirror in the Hudson.
Last edited by Frogacuda; 24 Apr 2015 at 11:51 PM.
So yeah, started watching this the other night and ended up staying up until 7 watching the first six episodes. The show is really fucking good and I never read any daredevil or watched the affleck movie. The choreography is good and yeah, the scenes really breathe without tons of shitty cuts and editing. The pace is great. D'onofrio is great. The fights are great. Some of the comic book schlock gets a little too thick for me at points but that's just comic book stuff, you can't blame the show for any of it.
This has got to be one of the best if not the best comic book adaptations to date. I don't know how exactly to put it, but it feels right. It feels like the way reading a comic feels. I agree exactly with mzo, it's a better batman than the 3 dc batmans for sure.
I think d'onofrio is great but I never read anything with kingpin so I don't have any frame of reference to compare his performance to. He needed the scene in ep 4 for his character development.
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