2015 NFL Season Thread

[Diff-chan]

Nice one, refs. That was an illegal bat out of bounds by Seattle. Detroit should have gotten the ball back with half the distance to the goal. Instead, NFL officiating gives the game to Seattle.

Wouldn't be the first time the refs give one to Seattle.

[A Robot Bit Me]

Maybe someday they'll get him a Randy Moss or Rob Gronkowski and let him pad his stats by throwing from the one (maybe not that last part) to cover up the fact that he'd be nowhere without his defense.

You keep saying this. Brady was still dealing when his best receiver was Deion Branch. Or when it was Jabar fucking Gaffney.

[kingoffighters]

Troy Brown was the best receiver Brady ever had during all 4 championships. Meanwhile, Aikman only had scrubs on his team.

[Brettmatic]

Troy Brown was the best receiver Brady ever had during all 4 championships. Meanwhile, Aikman only had scrubs on his team.

Aikman never had a great running back to hand the ball to like the hall of famers Brady had either. I can't believe he was so good with defenses not having to worry about a run threat

[Type Ryan]

Don't forget the shitty receivers Aikman had to throw to. Seriously? Aikman had scrubs on his team?

[Yoshi]

You keep saying this. Brady was still dealing when his best receiver was Deion Branch. Or when it was Jabar fucking Gaffney.

He wasn't dealing shit. His defense was handing him rings. He did less for those teams than Eli did when he beat Brady... twice.

[Yoshi]

Aikman never had a great running back to hand the ball to like the hall of famers Brady had either. I can't believe he was so good with defenses not having to worry about a run threat

I keep forgetting that Aikman was a 6th round pick who walked into a perfect situation on a team that was already in the playoffs.

Sarcasm aside, yes, Aikman's teams were better than any team Brady has ever been part of, and it's not close. However, Aikman was also part of that delta.

Last night was a perfect example of the kind of game that Wilson and young Brady get credit for "winning." When you put up 13 in the NFL, you have no business winning, and the QB had nothing to do with the win, especially when he fumbled three times in the fourth quarter.

[Yoshi]

Troy Brown was the best receiver Brady ever had during all 4 championships.

That would be Gronkowski, but you're just helping my point. All four championship teams were driven by their defense. Hell, the most recent Super Bowl would have been a blowout had the defense not kept making up for Brady playing like shit. When Brady was padding his stats with the team on his shoulders, they didn't win shit. Only the truly elite QBs like Manning, Rodgers, and Brees can pull that off.

edit: And even that is a very recent phenomenon. Dan Marino probably would have had multiple rings under the current joke of a rule set.

edit2: Brady has managed to combine the fault hiding west coast offense with a legitimate defensive and cheating genius for a coach. I'm not sure there has ever been a QB with more inherent advantages. The biggest compliment I'll pay him is that he's smart enough to never leave and let us see behind the curtain.

[Diff-chan]

That post reads like it should be made of letters cut out of magazine ads.

2004 Pats, probably the best early Belichick team, were dominate on defense and offense. They had the 7th best offense and the 9th best defense. Brady threw 28 TDs, 14 INTs, and a 92.6 rating.

By comparison the 2000 Ravens had the best defense and the 16th best offense. Trent Dilfer had 12 TDs, 11INTs, and a 76.6 rating.

Brady is far better than Yoshi gives him credit for.

[Diff-chan]

I remember that Manning SB run. The defense on the Colts played out their mind those four games. Well, maybe three, because they played Rex Grossman in the last one.

Point is, Manning is still a great QB, but he needed a dominating defense to get over the hump.