Science Vs God?????

**Rich** · 10 Apr 2003, 11:35 PM

Originally posted by frostwolf ex
actually rich, what did you say that was idiotic, i thought this thread was one of the better ones, nobody really went to name calling,and things wound down in a friendly way. im amazed i didnt come into this thread at all, usually i gravitated toward threads like these.

Just the amount of misinformation, and trying to pick fights.

**Rick** · 10 Apr 2003, 11:54 PM

you evidently havent visited the mobius strips of the war threads.

You're right, I haven't.

**Captain Vegetable** · 11 Apr 2003, 12:00 AM

I'm not doing this again.

**Rick** · 11 Apr 2003, 12:08 AM

I wouldn't worry about it, it seems as though in its revival, its become Smiley Hour Happy Time as opposed to bickering over an issue that no one had a theory without holes.

**Omni** · 11 Apr 2003, 12:22 AM

Originally posted by Tracer
Like MK, I belive that God is the sum total of all physical laws in the universe. We can't know them all or prove all of them conclusively, but the beauty of science is that it is flexable and always questioning nature as well as itself. Mathematics, the language which science is rooted speaks in absolutes (for the most part - one could get more complex and actually state how and where, in theory within laws, 2 + 2 does not equal 4). 'Faith' from this is the acceptance of an idea, for me, that we will never know the face of god. There is no palace in the clouds, no rapture. God is not anthropomorphic and God is. It's a force that governs every aspect of us, what makes us love, what makes us walk erect, what warms the Earth and what makes Calcium volitile in water. God governed the pens of Thomas Aquinas and Anton LeVey and what I say right now as well as how I am able to say it. God changes, transforms, converts (perhaps create and destory, or perhaps not). I doubt therefore I might be - but one thing to this being, myself, is certian. If there is anything I can call God, it is this force which works in a divine clockwork simple for us to see and impossilbe for anything to understand. This unfathomable force - this enigmatic sprit is beyond the divinity of scripture and part of it at the same time. That's what I belive - and I certianly do not hold God and Science to be adverse to each other. Nothing can be adverse to God because God is everything.

Really, its all in how you define god I guess.

Well, then how can you be sure it even fell to begin with? If you observed the tree and could no hear it then you must assume that within the confines of classical physics that it makes a sound. If you did not observe it - then you don\'t know if it fell.

The \"Gods clock\" thing sounds more like rationalization, but being that the case that would assume that the earth is as old as the universe? Would Gods days be equal in lenth?

ºTracer

I just wanna say that I would have tried to say something along these lines, except not nearly as well.