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  1. Originally posted by Wolffen
    Btw, has there been any news on the Linksys wireless ethernet adapter for the Xbox? And does anyone know if XBLive allows you to play from behind a router/firewall?
    The new OXM magazine has a poster inside of it with XBOX Live details. It gives a web site you'll be able to go to for just such a problem. I don't have it with me or I would post the site.

  2. I believe that Xbox Live will have a one user id one password system similar to MSN Passport but I doubt it would be the same. But I'm not completely sure. What does the Passport thing have to do with the Software Assurance fiasco? That's when Microsoft changed their Office subscription plan so that you had to pay up front for about 3 years (or more) of upgrades or else you would have to pay full price if you didn't sign on before the deadline right?
    Name: Rock
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  3. That old gag.

    Somebody needs to write a new Microsoft joke.

  4. I believe that Xbox Live will have a one user id one password system similar to MSN Passport but I doubt it would be the same. But I'm not completely sure. What does the Passport thing have to do with the Software Assurance fiasco? That's when Microsoft changed their Office subscription plan so that you had to pay up front for about 3 years (or more) of upgrades or else you would have to pay full price if you didn't sign on before the deadline right?
    You're pretty close on Software Assurance. 'Cept SoftAss covers ALL saleable MS products (SQL Server, Exchange, NT, 2000, XP, .NET, V C++, VB, CE, etc). And to get SoftAss, you had to upgrade to "current levels" to qualify. Running Win98? No SoftAss for you, until you pay money to upgrade to Win2000! Etc, Etc, Etc.

    What does that have to do with Passport? Well, I figure if a company is going to try and rip off millions of corporate customers by making them pay a large sum of money now for "potential" upgrades they may not need now or within 2 years (SoftAss only last for 2 years), I shouldn't trust them with my wallet. The ultimate expression of .NET Passport is MS has any info you give them in their servers (address, phone, credit cards, credit reports, etc). While this can be nice in some respects, I can't say MS is at the top of my list of "Most Trusted Companies." For the time being, MS is keeping the info in Passport minimal (14 fields, supposedly). But they'd like to take it much farther (buy a house or car using your .NET id!). I'd prefer to skip that boat now rather than later.

    I'm torn though. Requiring a credit card for XBLive means less lamers (in theory), and a better gaming experience (again, in theory).

    Nigel, I didn't notice that in this month's magazine. I thought the poster was just for Unreal Tournanment. I scanned their "article" about the XBLive service for more details on wireless solutions, but didn't see anything. I'll have to check again.
    Never under any circumstance scrutinize the mastication orifice of a gratuitous herbivorous quadruped.

  5. requiring a credit card for psov2 didnt deter the lamers....

  6. Somebody needs to write a new Microsoft joke.
    Well, I didn't say it reminded me of a fresh Microsoft joke.
    Besides, most of the good ones are about Larry Ellison now.

    requiring a credit card for psov2 didnt deter the lamers....
    Good point DD. Thanks for spoiling my one happy thought about XBLive.
    Never under any circumstance scrutinize the mastication orifice of a gratuitous herbivorous quadruped.

  7. Originally posted by Wolffen
    Nigel, I didn't notice that in this month's magazine. I thought the poster was just for Unreal Tournanment. I scanned their "article" about the XBLive service for more details on wireless solutions, but didn't see anything. I'll have to check again.
    It's on the back of that Unreal poster.

  8. Originally posted by Wolffen
    Good point DD. Thanks for spoiling my one happy thought about XBLive.
    well at least all those lamers will have cool distorted voices to go along with their lameness

  9. Originally posted by Wolffen

    What does that have to do with Passport? Well, I figure if a company is going to try and rip off millions of corporate customers by making them pay a large sum of money now for "potential" upgrades they may not need now or within 2 years (SoftAss only last for 2 years), I shouldn't trust them with my wallet.
    Very true, but MS is paying for it because I heard that the majority of businesses have held off on subscribing to this plan. I read this off of ZDnet and I believe the figure was around 30% (maybe less) of companies actually signed onto this plan and MS may rethink this rash plan. So your company isn't the only one that's careful about renewing their license.

    As for Passport security issues, who knows... after all, Windows has been notorious for security leaks, but then again, we'd be seeing the blue screen of death on the Xbox if it were anything like Windows... *recalls E3 2001*
    Name: Rock
    Town: Arcadia

  10. OK. The poster in OXBM mentions a currently non-existant FAQ on http://www.xbox.com/live. So much for that. I did some digging on Linksys's website, and found this: http://www.linksys.com/press/press.asp?prid=61

    Instant Wireless Ethernet Workgroup Bridge (WET11) – The Instant Wireless Ethernet Workgroup Bridge enables any network device with an Ethernet port to go wireless, including PCs, printers, Internet appliances, gaming consoles such as the Xbox™, and even entertainment hardware such as Replay TV™ devices. It acts as a wireless converter to bridge Ethernet and wireless. Use this versatile Wireless Ethernet Bridge to transform any of your Ethernet hardware into a wireless device, so you can extend and customize your wireless network to suit your needs. 128-bit WEP capable. Estimated Street Price $149.

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    That hurts the wallet a bit...Guess I might look into running some CAT5 through my house after all. =/

    I'm still interested to see how XBLive works through a firewall. I assume the 'box just makes a TCP/IP connection to the XBL servers. If that's the case, as long as nothing funky is being used, most consumer level hardware firewalls should work fine with the service.

    well at least all those lamers will have cool distorted voices to go along with their lameness
    A feature I won't have to use. When someone plays against me, they'll never know if they're playing against Scooby Doo, Sean Connery, Batman (Kevin Conroy version), Optimus Prime, Piccolo (current US VA), Scorpius, or a half dozen other characters. Although Scooby as Dark Lord would be intersting.
    Never under any circumstance scrutinize the mastication orifice of a gratuitous herbivorous quadruped.

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