Human Cloning.

**Rick** · 14 Aug 2002, 07:31 PM

This thread has given me such an astonishing amount of information on cloning its unbelievable. I've come to the conclusion that cloning is too unnatural to be done on a human safely, the amounts of risks involved are too grand in my view.

P.S. Man, I thought it was bad when I got confused with Nick now and then, now with Rich around its become harder for people to tell me apart!

**Rich** · 15 Aug 2002, 03:39 AM

lol Rick, I don't go by names, but rather avatars =P

I find the amount of ignorance in this thread astonishing, not to mention the fear of clones thus calling them not human. They are human, whether your like it or not, but let's just hope they aren't created from a risk perspective. But this they are not human campaign is stupid, the fact that people could be so void of compassion as to say clones should die. (maybe not in this thread, but in chats) I would gladly live side by side with a clone if one was to ever be created, Also, I'd like to point out that those using the clones are not human argument are most likely homophobic self reliant shits. I was talkign to someone who thought clones should die, and proceded to tell me if he was president, he would commit cultural genocide against the gays because they are not natural and they go against nature. (He was an Atheist) The reasons he provided were enough for me to lose another level of respect for those supporting the clones aren't human argument.

**BioMechanic** · 15 Aug 2002, 01:32 PM

"Also, I'd like to point out that those using the clones are not human argument are most likely homophobic self reliant shits."

Respectful arguing is fine, Rich. Personal insults aren't. Don't sink to that level - it's pretty sad, and unnecessary.

**EThugg** · 15 Aug 2002, 04:17 PM

Originally posted by Rich

Also, I'd like to point out that those using the clones are not human argument are most likely homophobic self reliant shits. I was talkign to someone who thought clones should die, and proceded to tell me if he was president, he would commit cultural genocide against the gays because they are not natural and they go against nature. (He was an Atheist) The reasons he provided were enough for me to lose another level of respect for those supporting the clones aren't human argument.

Self reliant is a flaw or som sort of insult? And by homophobic, I assume you mean *hates* gays. Hating, and saying they are unnatural, and defective, are 2 different things. I need glasses, I'm defective, do you think I hate myself because I can admit that I'm defective? Well, I don't (regardless of your answer).

PS: I said Dollie (or whatever) should be destroyed, yes, but only to prevent her from 'hooking up' with real sheep, and possibly spreading new/unforseen mutations to the gene-pool. Not because I don't think Dollie can';t feel, or isn't really alive.

PPS: Who's the cultural genocide guy? I'd like to talk to him...

BWAHAHAHAHA!!!

**burgundy** · 15 Aug 2002, 04:23 PM

There's zero evidence that clones carry any more risk of mutation than any other organism. Actually, since they are perfect genetic copies of existing organisms, one could argue that they carry no risk of mutation whatsoever.

Regardless, experimental animals (like that bunny that glows Xbox neon green - there's a freak even you could love, Thugg!) are routinely sterilized, just as a precaution, and I'm sure the same was done to Dolly.

EDIT - Say hello to Alba!

**Werewolf** · 15 Aug 2002, 04:30 PM

This gives a new meaning to the term "like mother like daughter"

M · 15 Aug 2002, 05:10 PM

as a side note I'd like to mention that if some one commited cultural genicide against gays there would be more born (or coming out) the next generation anyway. That's just a frightening idea. <

ps. I\'m of course refering to the genicide.