Human Cloning.

[Rick]

he is a heartless piece of shit who represents all that is wrong with the world.

Man, all I have to say is . EThugg's views have never been very popular, but that's about the funniest shit I've ever read. I wish someone could say that to me and mean it. *insert T smiley*

[EThugg]

Originally posted by rezo
sure there is. for example, a logical reason to help someone is if you want them helped. an illogical reason to help someone is if you don't want them helped. so I don't really understand what you mean.

That's a compassion/'feeling' (in Johnnys words) reason, not a logical one. Logic would say all that matters is self preservation, not the preservation of others. Like a kid not trying to help his brother up from hanging off a cliff cause he fell... helping could put the 1st kid in danger. It would be illogical to help, as you'd be putting yourself in danger. Only compassion would tell you you should help your brother. Is this making sense yet...?

[Rich]

Originally posted by EThugg
They are real, just not real people. They feel, but that doesn't change the fact they are abominations of nature and should be destroyed.

I also don't consider you a real person, but rather an abomination of nature. Human are meant to have sympathy, something you are void of. What would this world be if humans were not here to help each other out.

On another note, IMO, this is easily debatable however, everything is natural on the contrary to what everyone says. Everything that is made is made through natural elements, or from objects from natural elements or so on and so on. And if something is possible to be accomplished by any animal, it is natural. Who says God's choice of reproduction was through sex? Maybe his original plan for reproduction was through cloning but he had to wait for humans to discover how to do this with natural elements, and natural materials. Or if you don't believe in God, then you should be in support of cloning because it's science so it doesn't matter. And if you don't understand what I'm saying, don't bother asking me what I mean because I just explained it best I can.

[dog$]

Just curious:

What are you going to do when the majority of the food you can purchase only comes from cloned animals?

Milk is already on the way...

[Rich]

And for the records, I'm not sure whether I support or don't support cloning, because I can easily debate both sides of the argument.

[EThugg]

Originally posted by dog$
Just curious:

What are you going to do when the majority of the food you can purchase only comes from cloned animals?

Milk is already on the way...

I'm a vegan.

[Rich]

dog$, he is going to refuse to eat it because it is not natural and then refuse medical attention when he needs it because of starvation and dehydration, hence leading to his death *edited for sympathy*
Damn, he is a vegan, let\'s clone plants and kill the originals!

[EThugg]

Originally posted by Rich


I also don't consider you a real person, but rather an abomination of nature. Human are meant to have sympathy, something you are void of. What would this world be if humans were not here to help each other out.

Well, hopefully quieter.

On another note, IMO, this is easily debatable however, everything is natural on the contrary to what everyone says. Everything that is made is made through natural elements, or from objects from natural elements or so on and so on. And if something is possible to be accomplished by any animal, it is natural. Who says God's choice of reproduction was through sex? Maybe his original plan for reproduction was through cloning but he had to wait for humans to discover how to do this with natural elements, and natural materials. Or if you don't believe in God, then you should be in support of cloning because it's science so it doesn't matter. And if you don't understand what I'm saying, don't bother asking me what I mean because I just explained it best I can.

Good argument... I support science and God theories equally... not at all.

[Saint of Killers]

Originally posted by BioMechanic
So you're telling me that a human or team of humans creating a clone in a lab is a natural process? Sorry, I don't agree.

Would it help you deal with the concept any if you knew the woman's clone won't be leaping fully grown from a large glass cylinder filled with strange bubbling liquid in the basement of some mad scientist's castle laboratory? She'll have the clone implanted in her uterus, be pregnant with and give birth to it like any other child. It really isn't any more unnatural than in vitro, as burgundy has pointed out. Do you not consider people born through in vitro ferltilization human? If so, you're a strange sort of bigot.

[EThugg]

Originally posted by Rich
Damn, he is a vegan, let\'s clone plants and kill the originals!

I can grow my own food, unless you plan on busting onto my property like a nazi and destroying it...