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Wisdom is what you gain from Cubic knowledge. It is a principle that represents the ineffable Truth of the Universe; comprehension of this principle enlightens you with a clearer view of the truths governing your life, truths of which you most likely already had some awareness.Originally Posted by arjue
It is easier to find your way through a lit room than a darkened one. Thus, Cubic wisdom aids you in solving your own problems and making your own decisions. It enhances, not supplants, your own judgement; unlike most of the world's religions, there is no strict morality in which you must have blind faith.
In fact, it is even up to you as to whether you, personally, would prefer Humanity to survive or perish. Either way, the evil that exists today will cease to exist, thus facilitating Cubic equilibrium. Time Cube merely allows you to make a more informed decision in this regard.
To claim that you don't understand the universe is one thing. To claim that it can never be understood is another thing; the only real basis for this claim would be to have an understanding of the universe and how humans perceive it, and from this understanding, to deduce that humans cannot understand the truth. But since we're assuming that humans can't understand it, and since an understanding is required for the claim, we conclude that it must be a supernatural, non-human entity that possesses this understanding.
Claiming to know how the universe works, however, requires no supernatural connection; it is based merely on our own perception of the universe, and our own reasoning based thereon. If we can formulate a tenable model of reality that withstands scrutiny and attempts at falsification, then I believe that it is rational to claim that we know how the universe works. It may be that the model/theory is falsified in future; but until that falsification becomes known, it is philosophically irrelevant, and is not part of the universe as we perceive and relate to it.
Exactly; it's a matter of gaining wisdom that gives you a clearer perception of the truths of which you were already inchoately aware. But it is a false claim that science's truths are not outwardly observable; certainly there is much non-subjective empirical evidence that we can observe.
While there certainly can be a lot of fictitious crap in culture, it is a strawman to take this as evidence that there is no reality in culture. We as humans have come to exist as part of reality, and most likely in compliance with the universe's fundamental laws than as a freak lottery-win (combination chaos and order rather than 100% chaos); it therefore stands to reason that we are capable of gaining a quite good comprehension of reality, one that can significantly aid our survival and evolution within reality. It's up to us whether we want to satisfy the Cubic laws by using that capability for the intended purpose, vis-a-vis, the evolutionary advantage that allowed it to be created in the first place.
Furthermore, if we assume that culture has no foundation in reality, then the statement "culture has no foundation in reality", being part of human culture/science, has no foundation in reality itself. It is therefore impossible for it to be a objective truth.
They exist, but within Cubic parameters. The Earth's equator-circle is divided into 4 corner-quadrants.
But the parameters in question are not arbitrary, as they have an intrinsic connection with the rotation of planets, stars, etc. They rotate about an axis, between the axial limits, designated interchangeably the "top" and "bottom". These are static opposites. Their rotation, between these opposites, encompasses 360 degrees of a plane; but it also has limits within the rotational plane, such as the Earth's equator. To represent these limits, we use a square, due to its unique harmonicity with the 360 degrees. The amazing thing is, once we've identified this representation, we can use it to prove 4 simultaneous days in 1-earth rotation, and that Time is Cubic not Linear.
Its supremacy is based on reasoning, as detailed in 4 is the supreme number of the Universe. To disprove it, you must refute that reasoning.
How is it superfluous?
What, because it can be expressed in terms of simple maths and not some highly complex esoteria, it is not true? That isn't rational; it sounds like more of an attempt at elitist self-aggrandising.
Yes, but they are not perfectly harmonious with the shapes other than the square that are being divided.
As far as I can see, it IS unique. What other relationships have the same harmony? As I explained above, the 4-corner-quadrant harmonicity is significant in that it forms part of the overall fundamental universal geometry.
OMGWTF WHEN I GO FAST TIME SLOWS DOWN!!OMG Do you think that this is a compelling disproof of relativity?
As I have said, Phi is related to and co-opted by the 4-rotation, see Cycles, Systems and Complexities in Nature. I am unsure how the Pythagoras theorem could be used to model reality, so if you think it could, please explain how.
2 is related to 4 in that the 4-quadrant division exists between the opposites of Day and Night. The 4-corner-rotation does exist between the 2 static opposites (N & S poles) though, so I guess that in that sense, 2 is significant within the Cubic geometry. But the connection between 2 and 4 should be clear. I would also like to see examples of the things you say are based on 2.
But if you consider the average positions of the points over the whole year, the separate seasons-cycle is cancelled out, allowing us to focus solely on the Earth's day-rotation, which is what we are analysing. With the axis averaged to perfectly vertical, we observe that the 4 corners are approximately equidistant.
There are issues like the chaos-induced imperfections in the gravity-induced round shape, and the extraneous influence of the moon's gravity, but Chaos and the perfect Cubic laws are considered to coexist within the universe, and as with the cycle of seasons, we disregard the moon's influence to focus solely on the Earth's day-night rotation.
To the extent that people cannot rationally justify their Cubeless beliefs, they are either too stupid to see the truth, or too evil to accept it. They might be intelligent and good in other ways, but in regard to their Cubeless beliefs, it must be concluded that they are stupid and evil. However, I'm not seeing any rational basis for your characterising Gene Ray and/or myself as a schizophrenic bum; therefore I infer that this characterisation is based on mere prejudice.
The 4-race representation is another issue; we may say that with humans distributed all over the globe, and with travel over the poles very difficult, there will be the most variation between populations on opposite equatorial points. In accordance with the 4-quadrant division, we identify two more points, the "halfway" points between the two opposites.
This doesn't take into account issues caused by random land/sea geographical features, and different habitats in different types of land. There are a multitude of races and smaller variations within the human species, as described in Implicit Cubic Selection. The 4-race representation is merely an approximation for racial variations within a globally distributed species.
The theory is defended/supported by logic; Time Cube is seen as less evil/more good than others since it gives a clearer representation, and one that does not justify or support evil actions that are likely to lead humanity to extinction. Certainly, to a large extent, we represent Time Cube with words; we are fighting fire with fire, taking evil-words and turning them towards a good cause. See Cubeless Doom and Cubic Salvation.
It's a fair criticism; Dr Ray has said that his Time Cube website is intended not so much to educate the public, but to attract publicity and induce a research group to evaluate the Time Cube. It succeeded in encouraging me to engage in my own Cubic evaluation. I think that my Cubic Awareness Online website should be effective in communicating the Cubic principles; hopefully people will take the time and effort to read and understand the website's articles.
You would probably like to think so, to dismiss the possibility that Time Cube is true. Are you afraid of the Truth?He's just an elaborate troll anyway
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The longest and most worthless post in the history of TNL.
Last edited by Brisco Bold; 30 Jan 2005 at 03:27 AM.
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So, okay, you've found a correlation between squares (NOT CUBES, SO QUIT USING "CUBIC" AS A STAND-IN FOR "4," WHICH IT ISN'T) and circles.
And? This is third-grade stuff. And the correlation ONLY works with circles (which don't often appear in nature... we see spirals or ovals far more often, including the Earth's equator and rotation around the sun, neither of which are circular).
You've yet to show anything meaningful here. You're using flowery words and hyperbole, but I'm not seeing much in the way of math or science beyond the initial statement. We get what you're saying, but you have yet to back it up with anything other than "it is because it is."
By the same token, what's to stop me from saying "2x2, 2+2 and 2^2 all equal four, which is the harmonious number. Since it is composed of 2s, 2 must therefore be the greatest number in the universe!"?
What applications will this have? What formulas will it change? Give me one real example of how this will help humanity. Give me one formula (not a generalization, an actual formula) that uses time cube to get the solution. Give me one scientific theory that this changes, and tell me how it changes it with some facts and examples that go beyond how we perceive the numbers.
In short, give me something that I didn't already know when I started learning about angles in school way back when.
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So other than being divided into four equal parts and having four 90 degree angles in the centre, what is the other thing needed for harmony? Cause from what I've read on your website, that's all that's needed, and those attributes as far as I know are common to every single regular shape (all even sided regular shapes at the very least).
Your theory has fuck all to do with the circle and everything to do with the properties of perpendicular lines.
Oh shit, I thought that the "fundamental universal geometry" of spherical forms being orbited by smaller spherical forms was due to that being the most energy efficient configuration. I didn't know that was put into question because perpendicular lines form 90 degree angles.
Of course not. But unlike your OMG TWO SETS OF FOUR 90 ANGLES BOTH EQUAL 360 DEGREES shit, the statement OMGWTF WHEN I GO FAST TIME SLOWS DOWN!!OMG logically relates to the theories hypothesis.
Ahh.... no, the precession of the earth's axis takes like 26'000 years... which from what I gather would slightly effect things; and what time does the sun rise on the equinox? And does that make Uranus a heathen planet?
Approximately equidistant for perfect harmony.
It seems the TimeCube WordVirus is evolving another defence mechanism to prevent its erradication, awesome! We'll have ten.. no... four commandments soon.
I'm not afraid of the unknowable.
Oh yeah, you're all big on bilateral symmetry (all bless the power of 2) but you ever looked inside an abdomen?
Last edited by AstroBlue; 30 Jan 2005 at 07:28 AM.
Quick zephyrs blow, vexing daft Jim.
I wonder if timecube boy can square the circle for me.
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So you're saying that if I am strong in the ways of 'The Cube' and its wisdom then I can use this knowledge to win the lottery, score with supermodels, see the future,become ripped and buff like WWE wrestlers,cure cancer,and live forever? That would solve a hell of a lot of problems for a lot of people. And also do you walk around with a calculator and only make decisions in life based on this theory? That would seem like an odd way to live through life.
And how can numbers define what is good and what is evil? I guess you automatically just assume that 2 and 4 are good numbers, so does that make 1 and 3 evil? If I own 3 cars, speak 3 languages, and own only 1 TV does that mean I'll never be enlightened and achieve cubic equlibrium?
I just dont get it.I mean say you guys are some mathematical geniuses and did find some correlation between the supreme 4 and a lot of shit in the universe. Why would you worship that number?That would be like me worshipping the element Carbon because all great life forms consist of it. Or worshipping water for the same reason.
Im not bashing your religion cubehead, I just dont understand the gist of it.
Ya Skunt
It's refreshing and somewhat disturbing at the same time that someone who can vocalize their arguments so concisely can believe in something so laughably ineffectual and not very important at all. You can believe in 4 days in one day if you like, and you can challenge the so-called "word-demons of academia" until you're blue in the face, but it's a hopelessly insane cause, one among many ideologies that will perish with its crackpot founder (excepting mormonism, it's a grand mystery how they're still around.)
Prophet of the Prophecy
you gotta admire these timecube people's devout adherence to their beliefs, loons but stout loons. I wonder how the time cube business relates to the important findings in quantum physics.
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I'd like to see Cube Boy post his arguments in The Rap Battle Thread - rhyming an everything - gangsta style...
or bust.
I guess we should take a vote or something, but for my money this is by far the best joke account TNL has ever had.
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