Sega to become platform-exclusive...

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Originally posted by NeoZeedeater
Nigel, only on these boards do people mention Sega in the same breath as Nintendo in terms of quality, you say?

Well then, the problem isn't with these boards, it's with the others.

The best Sega games are as good as the best Nintendo games. Sega releases more crap games than Nintendo but they also release more good games. They just release many more games period.

No one makes games as good as the best Nintendo games. At least IMO.

Originally posted by sleeveboy
Nintendo certainly has the market cornered in \"run around and do nothing\" games, I\'ll give you that.

That\'s surprising asinine coming out of you. Do you have SMS envy?

GameHED - As far as shooters and racers go, someone\'s ignoring Mario Kart and StarFox.

Neo - Late 2000? I would say so. The only major titles to release in 2001 were Paper Mario and CBFD, and they both released early. The N64 would have been a doorstop by the time S&P was localized. Although your reason is certainly a good one - and it explains why the cart is so easy to find.

Tracer - Nintendo probably has a slightly more conservative past, but they also produce less of the niche titles anyway. For every S&P, you can find something like the domestic release of Tetris Attack on a lame duck NES. Further, I don\'t see why Nintendo would dissuade Sega niche releases on the Cube, even if they were exclusive.

I agree - now that I own all the consoles, I hope Sega stays on all of them. Well, except the PS2, maybe.

[sleeve]

It was a joke. Honestly, I could care less about this stupid debate.

[sggg]

Originally posted by burgundy
Rez was not released domestically on DC because it was past dead at the time.

Had Sega not gone multi-platform, there would have been no domestic Rez release.

Had Sega not gone multi-platform, then surely Dreamcast would have still been supported. If Dreamcast was still supported, it would have been released domestically on Dreamcast instead of PS2.




As for the whole Sega-debate... I am a huge Sega fan since way back when I first got my SMS. Sega has not always been successful, but I honestly don't have any complaints. They've had some spectacular flops... but I think they have these flops because they try so hard to push the envelope. They take risks. When you take risks like this you are liable to fall on your face sometimes.... but you're also much more likely to do incredibly successful and brilliant things. Basically, to me that is Sega. They've always done that.. since the wonderful SMS and the great peripherals like the 3D glasses. To pioneering hardware like Sega CD.. to game genres like Sonic and Jet Set Radio and Phantasy Star Online and Rez. Sega is always trying new things.

Yeh, they've botched more then enough things. Dreamcast never should have died so soon, but to be honest I am just happy they had the stones to come out with Dreamcast in the first place, after the Saturn debacle... It came out against great odds and it actually was quite successful anyway (just not successful enough to save Sega's bacon)... I don't blame Sega for dropping DC support either. I am still sad about it... but they simply did what's best for the company. If they don't make money, there will be no Sega games. If anything thinks they're screwing over gamers they're nuts. Sega is just trying to survive and thrive. If you like Sega, you'll respect that and know that whatever they do, they're doing it to try to stay in business and make money, so that they can stay in business and keep on making more great games - which is in the gamers best interests.

I'm glad that Sega is just the way they are. I would not have it any other way.



As for Nintendo, I could really totally live without them. I don't care much for the big franchises (Mario, Zelda). I find them boring or overrated or at least personally unappealing. They put out so few games I am interested in... I love GBA, but that's almost in spite of Nintendo. God-damn them to hell for using that horrible D-pad on the system... I love the Gamecube hardware so much more than the competition. But if I get one, er, there are no Nintendo-made games I even want (well, I might buy Wave Race for $15 in a bargain bin). I don't have anything bad to say about Nintendo. They just produce very little software that I find appealing.

But that's just me. I can respect and understand that everyone had different tastes. Some people like games I don't like. That's OK. Some people don't like the games I like. That's OK too. If more people just remembered that I don't think this "debate" would have gotten so stupid.

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*continues to think*

I'm still not seeing how Sega is more "quirky and Japanese" than Nintendo. I mean, what could be more Japanese than Pokemon? Didn't we all say "what the hell is this" when Pokemon came out? Love it or hate it, Nintendo took a big risk with that franchise, and reaped a big reward. We might not think of Pokemon as niche now, but that's because of the tremendous job by NoA's marketing. Sega's niche titles stay niche because they don't market them properly or at all.

[SearchManX]

Screw Sega's niche titles, I'm glad they're bringing back Shinobi but damn them for giving Altered Beast and Shinobi GBA rights to THQ.

I'll take Shinobi anyday over Typing of the Dead, Space Channel 5, Seaman, or Samba de Amigo.

[burgundy]

Originally posted by SearchManX
Screw Sega's niche titles, I'm glad they're bringing back Shinobi but damn them for giving Altered Beast and Shinobi GBA rights to THQ.

I'll take Shinobi anyday over Typing of the Dead, Space Channel 5, Seaman, or Samba de Amigo.

Samba over Shinobi? Pure madness. Then again, I really don't care about Shinobi.

THQ publishes all of Sega's GBA games. I'm pretty sure that development is unaffected.

[SearchManX]

Originally posted by burgundy
Samba over Shinobi? Pure madness. Then again, I really don't care about Shinobi.

THQ publishes all of Sega's GBA games. I'm pretty sure that development is unaffected.

Samba de Amigo is pretty good, but I'd rather have Shinobi revived rather than another music title. I'm more of an action game junkie myself, but that doesn't mean I hate music titles, it's just that I'd prefer to see Sega's good action franchises to come back rather than see new "gimmicky" titles.

As for Shinobi and Altered Beast on the GBA, I think that THQ is responsible for selecting a small developer to create the two GBA games, as opposed to the Sonic Advance games, but I could be wrong.

[burgundy]

Originally posted by SearchManX

As for Shinobi and Altered Beast on the GBA, I think that THQ is responsible for selecting a small developer to create the two GBA games, as opposed to the Sonic Advance games, but I could be wrong.

Well, if that's the case, I stand corrected, not to mention disgusted.

[SearchManX]

You seriously can tell the humongous gap in quality between the Sonic Advance games and the Altered Beast GBA game. It seriously looks home-brewed.

Shinobi is not as bad, but I'm having my doubts.

[Cheebs]

I am staying far, far away from the new Shinobi and Altered beast games. What a freakin' disapointment! Pre renders? Gah! The artists also need a lesson or two on use of colors and perspective. The Shinobi game has perspectives that boarder on wacky impressionist art.