Election Thread 2016

**Yoshi** · 26 Jul 2016, 12:09 PM

Originally Posted by Fe 26

Most of this identity politics crap is a reaction to moral conservatives.

You could argue for the chicken or the egg, but it's the only way to unite people who don't give a fuck about each other, e.g. minorities and LGBT communities. It's also why Democrats can't get anything done, even when they have a majority. They don't actually agree on anything except doing whatever they personally want and trying to pass the bill to someone else.

**Frogacuda** · 26 Jul 2016, 12:44 PM

Less cynically, it's also the very nature of the left to disagree, because the left is the collective of all people who want change, and that's inherently a collection of different voices compared to the static state of conservatism that wants to stay the same or move backwards. Conservatives only bicker in degrees.

**Yoshi** · 26 Jul 2016, 01:05 PM

Call it cynicism if you want, but the making someone else pay for it is inseparable from the rest. If it weren't, they'd just go do it instead of trying to do it through government, which only adds the value that it can collect taxes.

You want bathrooms for every combination of mental disorder imaginable? I'm sure a contractor would be happy to build them. Just write him a check. Oh, you don't want it enough to pay for it? Fuck off.

**Doc Holliday** · 26 Jul 2016, 02:50 PM

Originally Posted by Diff-chan

I don't see evidence that voting 3rd party significantly alters the trajectories of the parties. Considering elections these days are basically GOTV efforts, not voting would IMO send a better message.

Not voting is an unknown where a vote for another party or independent will at least show a value for opposing ideas?

I need to read more about FPTP. I'm just desperate to change the one dimension of politics 2 party politics enforce.

**Frogacuda** · 26 Jul 2016, 04:03 PM

Originally Posted by Yoshi

You want bathrooms for every combination of mental disorder imaginable? I'm sure a contractor would be happy to build them. Just write him a check. Oh, you don't want it enough to pay for it? Fuck off.

You do realize that the democratic party is the ones arguing for "keep the status quo" on bathrooms, right? Their stance is "It's fine how it's always been, stop being a dick about it, dude."

**Josh** · 26 Jul 2016, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by Fe 26

I'd be impressed if he really feels that way.

Why?

**Anthony** · 26 Jul 2016, 05:21 PM

I wish the green party would change their name to the Progressive Party. At least that would sorta clue people in.

**Diff-chan** · 26 Jul 2016, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by Frogacuda

You do realize that the democratic party is the ones arguing for "keep the status quo" on bathrooms, right? Their stance is "It's fine how it's always been, stop being a dick about it, dude."

I don't think this is correct. Charlotte passed a law that prompted the response from legislature.

This is a shitty wedge issue being pushed by the victim wing of the Democratic Party. Transgender people are at most .5% of the population and that is a stretch. They've turned it into some nonsense country wide debate. It's no different from the flag burning amendments the GOP kept pushing up until recently.